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27 May 2013 @ 12:44 am
I'm completely new to menstrual cups. When I read about them I got really excited and immediately ordered one. Problem is, I didn't do much research prior to ordering. So I order a Sckoon cup size 1 because it was the first brand I saw. I'm 26 and a virgin, I have no problems inserting things into my vagina as I have used Tampons for 14 years and also used nuva ring birth control for two years. I tried a few nights ago to insert my cup, trying every fold. I had little success only being able to insert half using the triangle fold. Today I started my period, I was able to insert all but the bottom of the same fold. After two hours of on and off trying (taking breaks to relax) I'm completely frustrated. The fold is hard to hold and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I still have a hymen, but I'm almost positive I have stretched it some tonight. When looking with the mirror I can tell a difference. Has anyone else used this cup? Any folding suggestions? I can't seem to grip any of the small folds, but the triangle fold. I just can't get the base of the cup in. This cup seems very difficult to fold in general...
 
m03m on May 27th, 2013 07:08 am (UTC)
Are you using some kind of lube? If not, that would probably help. Water based lube or coconut oil would most likely work here, and you should put it on yourself, not the cup, as otherwise it gets too slippery.
Worth a try?
teacupcake89 on May 27th, 2013 09:40 am (UTC)
Use both hands to keep the fold in place and try different positions to insert the cup, such as:

sitting on the edge of the bath
sitting on the toilet (leaning backwards or forwards)
squatting over the toilet or just squatting (high or low)
squatting in the shower/bath or leaning against shower door/wall
one foot on the toilet seat/bath
lying on back on the bed, knees wide apart feet flat on the bed or knees drawn to chest.
lying sideways on the bed, spoon position or one leg at 90degrees.

Remember that the vagina isn’t vertical, so make sure you angle the cup slanting downwards towards your tailbone/end of bottom. I repeat this to myself if I find the cup it hitting against something, take a deep relaxing breath and insert a bit further and repeat until it is mostly or fully inside.

Like m03m says get some water-based lube or coconut oil and use lots of it! Put it on yourself not the cup, it makes it hard to keep the cup folded otherwise! Have a towel or toilet roll on hand to wipe your hands on if they get slippery.

The most important tip is to RELAX!! I pretend that I'm about to 'have sex'/insert something, this helps me relax and distracts me from panicking and overthinking the cup as an ‘object’! Focus on relaxing your muscles, keep your jaw slack/open as this will stop you from tensing up and take deep breaths! Sometimes bearing down a little, as in almost trying to pee / have a bowel movement helps keep my vag opening relaxed.

Insert the cup slowly, slowly, I hold the top with one hand and the bottom with the other hand so it has less chance to 'pop' open before you want it to. With the punchdown fold, I insert the smooth side upwards with the crease towards the floor, but you might find the other way better. If you’re having difficulties stop midway insertion, then holding the cup still, relax, and push slowly in the middle of a deep breath. Repeat until the cup is in fully.

Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on May 27th, 2013 02:42 pm (UTC)
You're probably "accidentally" clenching your PC muscles. To isolate them, next time you go pee, start and stop your stream a few times. Then insert your finger and give it a little squeeze. Now that you know how to contract them on command, practice RELAXING them on command. You'll need to do that for insertion and especially removal. Open your mouth a little and keep your jaw slack -- and don't forget to breathe! :o)


Want to try my method?
Insert your cup so the rim is just beyond your pubic bone and allow it to open fully there. Then nudge the base/stem (for me that's a healthy nudge rearward) so the opening points toward your cervix and finally, give the cup a boost as you kegel it up and into place. Despite what the instructions say, you want the rim to sit (O) around your cervix. And there's no need to spin/rotate your cup because you already know it's open. But if you want to, go on ahead...

If you have trouble getting the cup to open, re-insert it with the folded part facing the other way. Up instead of down, or left instead of right (etc.) Create an air channel on the soft back side of your vagina to help the cup fill with air as it opens. Take your time, don't rush! Sometimes enlarging the tiny little anti-suction holes around the rim helps too.

And final tip: If you don't already, drop your panties to your ankles so you can splay your knees comfortably. Keeping them up at knee height makes it hard to maneuver around down there.

Oh yeah, and as the others have said, a little lube on you (not the cup) will help.
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teacupcake89 on May 28th, 2013 02:46 pm (UTC)
are you using lubricant, using both hands/pushing down with your muscles slightly to help insertion?

once you have the first half/2 thirds in then angle the cup in another direction and fold the bottom half inwards to make it narrower to fit in easier.

Good luck!
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teacupcake89 on May 30th, 2013 10:16 am (UTC)
yeps, that's fine, lots of people do that and then nudge/push/kegel the cup into position.
ktpk on May 30th, 2013 12:59 am (UTC)
How did it work out? I decided to walk away for a few days. I really want to use it, but I'm completely frustrated. I've tried everything everyone has suggested plus I've done extensive research. I'm lost.
ginny587ginny587 on June 1st, 2013 03:54 pm (UTC)
You can do it!
We're actually in similar boats, too-I am also 26 and a virgin and got a Sckoon cup 1 and had problems getting it in (and the out once I got it in).
I found the punchdown fold to be the miracle fold. The first time I got it to work, I was in the tub and was practically lying down. The folded side was facing towards the floor, and I had one had at the base and the other at the top (and used some lube to help). I usually let it open once it's far enough in that my top hand can't stay on any longer, and then use the bottom hand to get it situated. It took me a while to get insertion to happen while sitting on the toilet. There are some points where it's still a little sore, but that seems to be getting better.
Something will work for you eventually!
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ginny587ginny587 on June 2nd, 2013 11:22 pm (UTC)
Only because I tried after just reading the instructions it came with, and didn't do it right (didn't check to make sure it unfolded-surprise, it didn't-and waited a while to take it out. By then it had moved around/traveled up a bit). No problems after I got it in right, just a one time derp moment.
You're way well informed and know what you're doing, so you'll be completely fine!