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ginny587
17 May 2013 @ 01:00 pm
I've been researching cups for a while now and finally got my first one this week (size 1 sckoon cup). I'm familiar with my anatomy but am a virgin, and had trouble with getting it in-finally got the triangle fold to work, but it didn't open all the way and has shifted so that I can't quite find the stem. I can feel part of the cup when I bear down but am too tight to get a finger and thumb up there with the folded up cup to pull it out. How do I get this thing out, and how can I keep this from happening again?
Thanks.
 
teacupcake89 on May 17th, 2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
you will be able to get a finger and thumb in with practice so don't worry!
insert one finger first in the space next to the stem, bearing down while you do this or using some lube if it helps, then once you've done that, try getting another finger (not necessarily from the same hand!) or thumb in the space on the other side of the stem.

The main thing is to relax, squatting shortens the vagina so that might help you reach it easier too.

for now: squat, bear down (really push down with your muscles like you are giving birth to the cup, aim for several long pushes not one big one! use your longest finger to press one side of the cup in and try to slide/pull it down until you can reach the stem, or get it out fully.

don't be afraid of using both hands to keep a hold of the stem and use your nails!
ginny587ginny587 on May 17th, 2013 06:21 pm (UTC)
I GOT IT! Lots of bearing down and plenty of ouch, but the thing came out. It turned sideways and the entire cup folded into a perfect circle. Clearly getting it in is going to take more practice...I don't know if I'll ever figure out what I did to make that happen!
Thanks for the advice! The squatting/bearing down did help a lot.
teacupcake89 on May 17th, 2013 06:40 pm (UTC)
YEY! Ok, so don't trim the stem for now!! If you're not on your period atm, I would wait until it starts before trying again!

For your next attempt: find your cervix and aim the rim of the cup in that direction. The cup may sit slanted towards it but that's normal. Make sure the cup has opened up before going about your day (it doesn't have to be a perfect 'o' shape, it could be more oval when opened up depending on the shape of you inside, but it does need to be open to collect anything!)

there are lots of tips in this post on getting soft cups like the Skooncup to open up: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#comments
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on May 17th, 2013 08:09 pm (UTC)
A clean spoon is often a good tool for tricky removal.
trejoytrejoy on May 18th, 2013 01:26 am (UTC)
The Sckoon stem is so flexible, it really doesn't need to be trimmed. Sounds like you wouldn't want to anyhow with how far up it traveled. But like teacupcake89 said, you might want to wait until until you're on your period to see if your cervix is lower (the cup would be, too). Also, cups don't generally sit 'upright' because the vagina isn't. My cup leans toward the left and back where my cervix hides out. You'll get the hang of it!
ginny587ginny587 on May 18th, 2013 02:29 am (UTC)
Lots of good tips in only a couple of hours-this community rocks! Next period is due next week so I'll wait to retry until then (just thought it would be nice to have a successful dry run first-oh well).
The problem wasn't that it traveled too far up or that it was angled-the thing was literally sideways. It didn't open at all and somehow completely turned on its side-I could reach it easily, but there was nothing to grab to even start pulling it down until I pretty much birthed the thing (I thought I understood what that meant until today!). It wasn't easy to get in, and once I got it past the entrance I think I let go really early and it just kind of shot in there and turned without opening. Maybe. I don't really know what happened, other than I thought it was in right but then couldn't feel the right thing when I tried to get it out. I did have it folded up as tight as I could get it to try and get it in comfortably. Time to start exploring different folds and maybe work on stretching things out a little.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on May 18th, 2013 02:52 pm (UTC)
I don't have a SckoonCup, but I use fairly soft cups and have the most luck with the origami fold http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/1044441.html . It helps to have one of the holes in the middle of the fold. If it doesn't unfold right away, which is often the case with the softest cups, I press on my vaginal wall, which gives the folded part of the cup room to expand. Also, I tend to put the cup in fairly shallowly (just past the pubic bone) and let it move upward on its own after I've gotten it open. Hope your next try goes more smoothly!
ginny587ginny587 on May 22nd, 2013 12:35 am (UTC)
So, I did more research on folds, found some lube to try and help and patiently waited until my cycle started today. I got it in pretty quickly with the punch down fold (folded side down-had it up last time with a C fold) and got it in, held onto it and got it to open! The stem is so far pretty low, and I managed to run a finger around the base and no part of it felt folded or bunched up. VICTORY!!!!!
Now for the waiting game to see if I got it angled right...my cervix seems to be a straight shot when I explored.
ginny587ginny587 on May 22nd, 2013 02:25 am (UTC)
It worked! I just got it out without fighting and it collected everything-out, washed and back in all in about 10 minutes! I am way too excited about this. *insert happy dance here*