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15 May 2013 @ 05:06 pm
Since I didn't get any responses to a comment of mine in a very old topic, I'm gonna try it with a new post. By the way, I didn't know "vegetarian/vegan" is also a tag here.. does it even make a difference when it comes to menstrual cups? (Because I'm a vegan.)
And yes, I am aware there are some related topics but those didn't really help me (and everyone's lady bits are individual, right? :) )

So here is it:
I have a feeling that I "crush" my cup (MeLuna classic, size m). At least it looks squished when I pull it out after exhausted trying of placing it right. I already wrote to the MeLuna support whether I need a smaller or/and a firmer size or should simply try harder but didn't get an answer so far. According to their size chart I should use m (even without the sport issue I get nowhere near s).

But I really seem having problems with placing the cup right since it just doesn't want to suction (sorry, I don't know if that's the common word for it or even a verb) and, like I said, it looks squished which makes me believe that the cup might be a bit too large or too soft. Has anyone had this problem, too, and then tried MeLuna sport?! If so, did it work out better?

Also, my problem is that I don't know anything about my anatomy down there, e.g. if my cervix is low (heck, I didn't even know a cervix could be low/high) or if I have any kind of dysfunction/malformation. I only know - avoiding TMI - that I really might be 'literally uptight'. Or is it normal for a woman to be tight, especially without lube and stuff?! ('Cause I've read of some women who cannot seem to insert the cup without any lube.)
When menstruating, I use the smallest tampon size (mini) every day and I don't need to change it for a few hours. And even with that size I don't feel very comfortable. I don't know if that's of any relevance but it surprises me a little. (Sometimes I use a bigger tampon but that's rare.)

And - but I'm not very sure - I think the cup fit the first time I tried it on/in ;) (first day of menstrual cycle, actually). Or I was yet too unexperienced to check it accurately because the second time/day it seemed to leak (A LOT.. it was like I didn't use any vaginal sanitary products). Does this maybe mean that my cervix somehow "moves" during the menstrual cycle? (Seems to be common, too. Like I said I didn't even know any of this.)

I already tried at least two kinds of folding, different positions, squished here and there, put it back and forth, but when I start pulling the cup out it works without much difficulty (but it shouldn't, at least I think so). And sometimes it seems to finally start 'sucking' somewhere near the entrance. (But that's too low/uncomfortable.)
And it's also the squished look that really makes me wonder. (Maybe I even overcooked the cup? Or it's broken? I don't know..)

What do you think? Does anyone have suggestions? With my next menstrual cycle coming up I'd like to read some suggestions before buying a new cup. I'm thinking about getting MeLuna classic s or even MeLuna sport s but I'm afraid they might be useless, too.

Oh, I forgot two things:
- No virgin, no birth, sexually active
- The first time I unpacked the cup I got scared. Could also be a sign for wrong size? ;o Although most other women probably are surprised the first time, too.
 
juliiie87juliiie87 on May 15th, 2013 04:12 pm (UTC)
No, your reaction when you first saw the cup has nothing to do with the actual size and shape of your vagina/cervix. It's more of a psychological thing really :)

It's NORMAL for Melunas to conform to the shape of your insides while you wear them. It's the plastic that they are made of that does this. My Meluna soft especially comes out oval and stays that way for a few hours. I believe comm' member Serpent has posted pictures of her Meluna in that oval shape.

Also, cups form a SEAL with your vaginal walls collapsing all around the cup, because that's how it works, whatever you insert in there (tampon, fingers, penis, dildo, etc.), the vagina expands *just* the right size to accomodate it, and closes all around. Suction is what happens when you try to pull on the cup and it won't move, and starts sucking on your insides instead. It's not actually something you want or need : http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html
Tightness is mostly a function of your pelvic floor muscles, and you need to relax them for insertion and removal, to let way for the cup.


The common opinion on this comm' is that length is the most important factor in terms of fit : width is relative as the vagina will adapt to whatever within reason, and is more a factor of the capacity you need (larger = more capacity). Stiffness on the other hand, can make a cup more or less comfortable for a given person, depending on that person's sensitivity : a cup that is too firm for you will create pressure on your bladder or rectum, and a cup that is too soft may get crushed and have a hard time popping open. However, in terms of unfolding the cup, experience goes a long way. Here's a few more tips that you may find helpful: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html

Finding your cervix is one way to determine the length available, but since you already have a cup, how it sits (barely at the entrance, within reach or way up high) is a good enough indicator. Cups usually tend to sit above your pelvic floor muscles, (o) around or just under your cervix.

See these about Melunas : http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2875871.html#comments
http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2616959.html#comments

Edited at 2013-05-15 04:29 pm (UTC)
pascallewest on May 15th, 2013 04:31 pm (UTC)
Hi! Welcome.. I won't give too much advice here because I am still trying to pinpoint my slight leaking issues on all my cups. Sometimes I don't leak but usually I do, at least a little bit. Not sure if it's residual fluid coming down that was already in there before I insert/reinsert or if I didn't put the cups in exactly right.. But I can say three things that might help you.

1. My Meluna Classic comes out of my body as an oval shape. I have read many other posts and comments on here from other people and this seems to be normal for Melunas. I believe, since it doesn't happen with silicone, that this has something to do with the fact that it is made out of thermoplastic elastomer instead of silicone. Although it's odd, I don't believe it is a "problem", nor do I think that it affects the performance of the cup. For me, the shape doesn't totally go back to normal unless I boil it or it sits out for quite a while.

2. Have you tried making sure that one of the holes is "inside" the fold when you insert? This helps to get proper suction. For example, for a C-fold, one of the holes is in the middle of the inner C. For a punchdown fold, one of the holes would be right where your finger punches it down. etc..

3. To make sure you have proper suction right after inserting, you might try twisting it the tiniest bit, or giving it a little tug to make sure it doesn't move. See if doing either of those works for you (of course, also making sure that the cup has actually popped open all the way).
neumeindilneumeindil on May 15th, 2013 04:39 pm (UTC)
The Keeper is made of rubber; other cups are made of medical-grade silicone. I understand that some vegans are conscious of using non-renewable resources, and would prefer a natural rubber cup, hence the tag.
juliiie87juliiie87 on May 15th, 2013 04:43 pm (UTC)
I think there was also the issue of what the dyes are made of ? I know in other fields some dyes are supposedly made with crushed beetles, etc. but I have no idea about cups.
Sarcasticia Nitpickersontisiphone on May 15th, 2013 05:29 pm (UTC)
There's also the problem that casein (a milk protein) is used in some latex production, which some vegans may want to avoid.
Kathlynekathlyne on May 15th, 2013 06:20 pm (UTC)
Because you say that the 2d time you wore the cup it was like you weren't wearing anything I'm inclined to think the cup may have opened to the side, instead of around your cervix. Have you been able to find your cervix? It may not be directly in the middle--it may be off to one side, so try and aim the cup to that side. Also, I always sweep a finger around the cup to make sure I can't feel the end of my cervix. If I can, then the cup won't catch anything and I need to reposition it. I press on the right side of my vag wall to let air into the cup because this helps aim the cup to the left, where my cervix hangs out.

I hope that helps.