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06 May 2013 @ 03:04 pm
Hi! By background I am 35 and have had 3 children. I am using a Lunette size 2 with the stem fully trimmed. This is my second cycle using it and I just can't seem to get it right. When I have it in it is generally comfortable, although especially on the first day of my cycle it can be painful when it pops open and crampy for a while afterwards. It can also be hard to get it to open fully, when I try and feel around it is sometimes concave in parts. And even when I think it is in right, and I can't feel it, it leaks. Not a lot, but enough to need to wear a pad all the time, which I really don't want to do. I'm wondering if maybe it is a little large / stiff for me? Or maybe I'm just not getting the seal right? Any ideas please?
 
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on May 6th, 2013 02:20 pm (UTC)
Want to try my method?

Insert the cup so the rim is just beyond your pubic bone and allow it to open fully there. Then give the base a nudge in the right direction to aim the opening toward your cervix (for me that's a healthy nudge rearward) and then give it a boost as you kegel it up and into position.

If you have trouble getting the cup to pop open, use your finger to create an air channel on the soft back side of your vag to get air into the cup. If it's still stubborn, take it out and re-fold it so the folded part faces the other way. Up instead of down, left instead of right, etc. Sometimes turning it around makes all the difference in the world.

As for a little bit of leakage, that's probably what we call "residual slobber." That's the flow that winds up in the nooks and crannies of your vag during a change. Especially if you were a tampon user in the past, your body hasn't figured out that it doesn't need to make as much lubrication as it used to and that's why it's wet and gushy and there's so much coming out. There are ways to combat residual slobber and it will probably wane over the next few cycles but get through the learning curve first. Me, I was never able to combat it fully but a liner a day is a small price to pay for all of the other benefits of cups.

As for stiffness, I LIKE the Lunette's stiffness because I think it pops easily and seals securely. On the other hand, because it's a stiff cup, it sometimes feels like I've got a bowling ball up there on my sensitive BLECH days. I often wonder if a softer Fleurcup wouldn't be more comfortable (but I'm peri-menopausal and I'll deal with it.)

Hang in there! You've ALMOST got it!

Yikes! I wrote a book.
justme3538 on May 6th, 2013 03:15 pm (UTC)
Thank you! That actually sounds a lot like the method I have been using most successfully! I hadn't thought of turning it around though, I will certainly try that :-) Its actually been far better today, so I'm wondering if it might be worth considering a slightly softer cup for my first very sensitive day? Would that be silly? I wouldn't normally mind a liner a day, but I'm away from home atm and don't have my lovely CSP and I'm grumpy about using disposible ones (and grumpy about just about everything else) lol!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on May 6th, 2013 04:22 pm (UTC)
Of course it's up to you whether or not you get a softer cup. The large Fleurcup has similar dimensions, a slightly different shape and is squishier. It seems to be a favorite of many. The large Lady (or color) cup is also similarly sized, shaped and very squishy. The only complaint that some people have is that it's slippery to remove. If you decide that you like another cup better, you can recoup some of your Lunette price by selling it on the mc_sales sister-site.

Me, I like having a totally different light days cup as a second cup. Mine happens to be an old version of the UK Mooncup. It's a completely different shape and lower capacity -- ergo a light days cup. The (one size) Femmecup is very similar and a little cheaper. Since the Lunette fits us both, maybe you'd like this too?
jwthemathsterjwthemathster on May 6th, 2013 02:36 pm (UTC)
I had similar, ongoing issues with my L Lunette (age 37, 4 births myself). I found that wearing it inside out helped quite a bit. I can only comment for myself, but I always thought that the stiffness of the body made it easy to break the seal if the body got pushed in. Inside out seemed to help, although I still had to continually use a pad backup, too (but a lot less leakage at least).

Also, how are you folding/inserting it? I found a punch down and seven fold with the fold facing down/toward the butt made for a great improvement in initial seal. Fold facing up, then I had problems with it not opening fully (strange, despite being so firm of a cup, but whatever, right?).

I did use the Lunette for 3-4 years (I didn't know about other non-US available cups) despite its drawbacks. It could be a matter of stiffness for you. Since you can't feel it, the width is probably not too much an issue. If you're thinking of trying a different cup, L Fleurcup (my new *love*) is the same size, but softer (no painful pop-open or crampiness) and quite easy to open and seal in my experience.
justme3538 on May 6th, 2013 03:25 pm (UTC)
Thanks very much for your reply! Glad I'm not the only one! I'd never thought of turning it inside out, will give that a go! Isn't it harder to remove without the grippy bits? I'll try turning the fold around too. And Fleurcup was on my list of alternatives too :-)
jwthemathsterjwthemathster on May 6th, 2013 03:50 pm (UTC)
It can be a bit more difficult. For me, however, I can squat, relax, and bear down to move the cup low enough that I can get a finger and my thumb up close to the rim to break the seal and shimmy the cup out. And a piece of tissue or a flannel face cloth in hand helps dry any slipperies (and keeps the hand clean from any "slobber").
Lady Felis of Domestica: dohfelisd on May 13th, 2013 05:13 pm (UTC)
I'm not much help, but I just wanted to share that I saw "Teething problems..." then the bit about how you had three kids, and the first image that popped into my brain was some little tyke teething on a Lunette cup. Then, I giggled hysterically. Which proves that my brain needs to go on a severe time out.

Back to your regularly scheduled advice.