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22 April 2013 @ 07:36 pm
Hello all. Ill start with the basics:
16, virgin, mooncup size b (uk)
I got my cup a few days after my last cycle ended. Some have said you could try before you get your period and some say not to. With this, I decided I'd do a bit of practicing. I practiced several times every few days or more but each time I failed to properly insert it. I got my period yesterday and tried to insert it again, using all the folds and positions I've read about. I keep trying but to no avail. My most successful fold is the punch-down fold. I can manage to get it in almost to the base of the cup before it hurts so naturally I stop pushing. It feels like something is blocking it, and when I let go, the cup is pushed down a few millimeters. Is this my cervix? Is it really low? I've tried to find it before but wasn't successful. Or will I just be inserting it wrongly? Any help would be really appreciated because I really want to be a convert.

Extra info:
I've never properly tried with tampons, because initially I had some problems (like I expect most people) and they were a cheap brand. I have managed successfully once, but never since, though I don't try often.
If I need to buy another cup, where could I go if I can't shop online, being in the uk? Thank you.
juliiie87juliiie87 on April 22nd, 2013 06:46 pm (UTC)
http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/1243131.html This should help you troubleshoot.

I would advise looking for your cervix (squatt and insert one clean, wet or lubed up finger and look for a round bump towards the back of your vagina). The cup should sit (o) around it. Also play with the angle of insertion : you want to angle the cup towards the end of your backbone or your a-hole, NOT up. Above is your pubic bone, maybe that's what you're bumping into ?

Also places to shop for a cup, IF you decide this one is not for you (but give it some time, so you'll find out what to look for in a new cup) : luxurymoon.co.uk, earthwisegirls.co.uk, femininewear.co.uk. Those are internet shops but they may have several payment options available for UK residents.

Edited at 2013-04-22 06:58 pm (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 22nd, 2013 07:51 pm (UTC)
Try getting comfortable with insertion using something like a (clean) hairbrush handle. Once it's in, note the angle. Try to replicate that with your cup.

If your hymen isn't in the way, you're probably clenching your pelvic floor (PC) muscles without realizing it. Next time after you go pee, insert your finger and give it a little squeeze. Now that you know how to contract them on command, practice RELAXING them on command. You'll need to do that for insertion and especially removal. Sit on the toilet and splay your knees comfortably, open your mouth a little, keep your jaw slack, and don't forget to breathe. ;o)
Lebannen Luitreath: Not idlylebannen on April 22nd, 2013 08:51 pm (UTC)
My folded UK mooncup size B is slightly bigger than two of my fingers. So I recommend trying to fit two fingers inside you - or, as Kuradi suggests, something else about the same size - to work out where the cup should be going. If it turns out you're not currently comfortable with something that size going inside you (I was happily using tampons about the size of one finger for a long time before going for anything bigger), put the cup in the back of your knicker drawer or something and think about it again in a few months time.
teacupcake89 on April 22nd, 2013 09:48 pm (UTC)
Try different positions to insert the cup, some suggestions include:

sitting on the edge of the bath, sitting on the toilet (leaning backwards or forwards) , squatting over the toilet or just squatting (high or low) , squatting in the shower/bath or leaning against shower door/wall one foot on the toilet seat/bath, lying on back on the bed, knees wide apart feet flat on the bed or knees drawn to chest. lying sideways on the bed, spoon position or one leg at 90degrees. I'm sure there are more but these are the ones I have tried!

Once you get the knack you’ll be able to use a cup in more than one position but sometimes taking the pressure off and being able to use it in your room if you have shared bathrooms with people wanting to use the bathroom when you’re trying to use the cup really helps.

You can make a cup easier to insert by running it under warm/hot water. The mooncup is pretty stiff and has a thick rim compared to most other cups though, (my mooncup uk from Boots was my first cup too)

Remember that the vagina isn’t vertical, so make sure you angle the cup slanting downwards towards your tailbone/end of bottom. I repeat this to myself if I find the cup it hitting against something, take a deep relaxing breath and insert a bit further and repeat until it is mostly or fully inside.

Get some water-based LUBE (you can get KY jelly from Boots, Superdrug, Tesco's etc) or coconut oil and use lots of it! Put it on yourself not the cup, it makes it hard to keep the cup folded otherwise! Have a towel or toilet roll on hand to wipe your hands on if they get slippery.

The most important tip is to RELAX!! I pretend that I'm about to 'have sex'/insert something, this helps me relax and distracts me from panicking and overthinking the cup as an ‘object’! Focus on relaxing your muscles, keep your jaw slack/open as this will stop you from tensing up and take deep breaths! Sometimes bearing down a little, as in almost trying to pee / have a bowel movement helps keep my vag opening relaxed.

I insert my cup as deeply as I can, aiming towards my cervix (so to the left for me), then let it open and sometimes push up on the base if it wasn't quite far in enough. Make sure the cup doesn’t go past your cervix or cervix is peeking out over one side of the rim, otherwise the cup will leak.

Insert the cup slowly, slowly, I hold the top with one hand and the bottom with the other hand so it has less chance to 'pop' open before you want it to. With the punchdown fold, I insert the smooth side upwards with the crease towards the floor, but you might find the other way better. If you’re having difficulties stop midway insertion, then holding the cup still, relax, and push slowly in the middle of a deep breath. Repeat until the cup is in fully.

Try not to trim the stem (loads) until you've worn it for a several hours/overnight/preferably a whole period as cups tend to ride up under the cervix, and you want to make sure you can still reach it!

Don't worry about another cup for now, try to get through the learning curve with your mooncup and the after a couple of cycles you'll know what things you do/don't want in a cup if you decide to get another one.