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16 April 2013 @ 02:04 pm
I recently purchased a large Sckoon cup and love the appearance and softness. However, I cannot for the life of me get the darned thing to open when inserting. My first cup (2 months ago) was a large Lunette, and it puts a lot of pressure on my bladder, making me feel as if I have to go all the time and causing hesitancy, preventing me from tinkling at all while it's in for the last couple of days of my cycle.

I decided to find a softer cup and went for the new Sckoon. My cups tend to be worn really high, but as I said earlier, I can't get this one to open. My lumpy vaginal walls squish it flat, and if I manage to get some air inside it I then cannot get it to seal and it gradually pushes itself out. I should add that I am 42 and have had four children (1 c-section and 3 VBAC's), so it seems unlikely to me that it's too big.

I have also recently acquired a large and a small Ladycup. They both open fine and stay in. What I do notice is that large cups tend to migrate north, heading way up shortly after insertion. If I place them lower they stick out and are definitely far from comfortable. I can, however, wear the small Ladycup lower in the vagina, just above the pubic bone. I feel it, but it's not horribly uncomfortable, and it stays low rather than slipping upward.

Does anyone have any pointers for the Sckoon? I really want it to work for me. I cannot rotate it as it is flat when inside. If I allow it to open low, it gets squished again as I try to ease it upward. Could it be the holes? They are pretty big on the outside if the cup but are really tiny on the inside of the cup.
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trejoytrejoy on April 17th, 2013 01:00 am (UTC)
I'm on my first Sckoon cycle. I coax it up and push the walls away from the cup to get it semi-open. Not sure it ever is completely.
matzwd on April 17th, 2013 01:39 am (UTC)
Hmmmm, maybe I should just not worry about it so much. I really don't think it's possible for it to fully open. Maybe if there's suction I'll just leave it and see what happens.
juliiie87juliiie87 on April 17th, 2013 02:07 pm (UTC)
Suction is not a good thing actually, and I don't know how you get that with a partially folded cup ? What you want is a seal with your vagina walls so the blood has no way out but in the cup.

http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html

I haven't tried the Sckoon cup personnally but I remember from reading this comm' over the past few months that others have reported having a hard time with it popping open, due to the hole position maybe. Try to allow air in, gently poke, push and pull, is what I'd suggest. Don't worry about breaking the seal if the cup isn't open in the first place.
matzwd on April 17th, 2013 05:35 pm (UTC)
In my limited experience with menstrual cups, I have found that once they are inserted, if you give the stem a light tug, you feel a suction if the cup is sealed. I realize the cup is not held in due to the suction. That said, this particular cup slips out if there is no seal. My issue is more that the body of the cup collapses due to the pressure of my vaginal walls. It seems to reason that it might be pointless to use a cup when it's squished like this, at least on heavier flow days, because the capacity would be very limited, wouldn't it? I am able to coax the rim open.
juliiie87juliiie87 on April 17th, 2013 06:13 pm (UTC)
All you really need is the rim to open from its previously folded position, it's ok if say your finger or pubic bone cause an indent. I agree about suction, when you tug on the stem, not otherwise. the fat that it slips out indicates it's not properly sealed, I wonder if coaxing it up higher once it's open would help bring it where your pelvic floor muscles would hold it in place, like a "hammock" ? cause that's how it's supposed to work, and maybe yours was not high enough ? I don't know about the reduced capacity, perhaps this cup is too soft for you ? but first I'd make sure it's in the right spot.
trejoytrejoy on April 18th, 2013 01:42 am (UTC)
After 24 hours, I think juliiie87 is right about getting it higher. Mine has been entirely open when removing from far up. The exciting thing for me is that I've experienced almost no leaking!

Softer cups can take a little extra patience. I'm coming from a soft MeLuna and coaxing it open is pretty similar.


Edited at 2013-04-18 01:44 am (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on April 19th, 2013 09:18 am (UTC)
Very true, most softer cups don't "just" "pop open", and if so it requires a bit of a technique. :)
Allison Vandenbrinkclicketysnap on August 19th, 2013 09:45 pm (UTC)
I just got my Sckooncup in the mail today, and while I was exploring it I realized that the holes were actually covered by a small membrane of silicone on the inside of the cup. I had placed the cup against the palm of my hand and squished the air out, and nothing happened, it just stayed squished. Once I poked the membranes off with a metal comb it worked much better and was able to suck in air and fully expand. Probably not the issue but worth checking out.