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05 April 2013 @ 11:53 am
First time cup user
Hello!

I have been a stalker on here for about two months while I researched cups and waited for my Miacup to arrive. I love how helpful everyone on here is, so I decided to sign up!

I was so excited when I received my cup though pretty disappointed it came the week AFTER my period. Bummer! Even though I've read a lot of people who don't/can't do dry runs, I couldn't help trying... I tried on the toilet, in the shower (ha! I felt like the craziest person ever rolling around in the shower!), on my back on the floor, with my leg up, squatting, and using a mirror. I was relaxed as could be, (I use a method of hypnotherapy for relaxing for other health reasons), relaxed my jaw and my shoulders and took my time. Anyways my point is, I tired but could not get it in. I believe lubricant would actually be pretty helpful since I felt "dry". I've read that some ladies use coconut oil, and as much as I would love that option since we have 10 bottles in the pantry right now... I want to be safe and use a water-based oil like suggested.

Here's my question: I found a "Asics Chafe Free Anti-Friction Lubricant" in our medicine cabinet. The ingredients are: water, Boron Nitride, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cyclohexasioxane, Silica, Polyacrylate 13, Polyisobutene, polysobrate 20, phenoxyethanol, Ethylhexylgycerin, Tocopheryl Acetate, Potassium Sorbate, Disodium EDTA and Aloe Barbadenis Leaf Juice. (Ha the only ingredient I knew how to spell was WATER!) I hate the thought of putting stuff like this on/in me but if it were to help... then Id be willing to try till I get a hang of things. Does this sound like it would work? Is this not the type of Lubricant I want? It says on the bottle "for external use only". Are there any other suggestions you can give me?

I am a virgin so inserting ANYTHING was new to me up till a few weeks ago when I located my cervix. The reason I am trying a dry run is because I would like to get as use to the cup as possible before I leave for a three month trip this June. I would LOVE to be comfortable with my cup so as to not have to pack any other menstrual products.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on April 5th, 2013 04:31 pm (UTC)
I think I'd go with the coconut oil over the lube. The lube sounds like it contains silicone ingredients (cyclopentasiloxane and cyclohexasiloxane) that could potentially damage the silicone of your cup, whereas silicone doesn't react with oil. I think a number of people on this board have had good results using coconut oil. Give it a try -- the oil should come right off with a mild soap.
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anjeaanjea on April 5th, 2013 04:44 pm (UTC)
Coconut oil is awesome - totally natural, smells good, and no harmful stuff. I have used it for myself as well as on my baby/toddler during diaper changes. :) Neither of us (and kidlet is a girl) have never had issue with it.
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noodlenoodz on April 5th, 2013 04:51 pm (UTC)
I would definitely not use that anti-chafing lubricant, as it's intended for long distance runners to use, I guess for the thighs etc. It's not the same thing as a lube intended for your vagina.
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juliiie87juliiie87 on April 5th, 2013 04:54 pm (UTC)
As much as I like the idea of lubricant, ultimately I think this stuff does more harm than good for us vag owners. So I'm with the others, coconut oil is actually super vag-friendly, antifungal and soothing. Apply a generous amount on your bits, rather then the cup so it'll be easier to hold!

And what you are experiencing is normal, after your perod should be the dryiest point of your cycle. I personnally prefer lying on my bed or sitting on the toilet for insertion, and to wet the cup with cold water beforehand. Good luck!
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living2laugh93 on April 5th, 2013 05:43 pm (UTC)
Thanks everyone!! Like I said in my post y'all are SOOOO helpful! Thanks for the the assurance that coconut oil will be fine. Does it matter virgin or non-virgin oil?

I had messaged the people at Miacup and this was their response: "We have done research into using oils and solvents on silicone and the outcome has been poor so we recommend that you rather use water based lubricants.
We did not try coconut oil but being an oil it may still attack the silicone and render it sticky and yucky."

This is why I wasn't sure about using coconut oil. But if people have been using it without problems, I guess there is no reason why I can't too!! I'm a natural-as-can-be type of girl so I didn't like the idea of putting that "junk" in that area.

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juliiie87juliiie87 on April 5th, 2013 05:54 pm (UTC)
Seriously? that's a bit ridiculous considering there's kitchen ware made out of silicone... you know for greasy pans? And that's actually natural rubber or latex (think condoms) that is likely to desintegrate with oils, not the same material. I've not tried it personnally, but I know others have. And if that stuff you have is actually made for running... yuck!

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m03m on April 6th, 2013 08:29 am (UTC)
I've used coconut oil with my cup (Fleurcup) and had no adverse effects at all. Also, I have silicone kitchenware and use coconut oil for frying. So, there you go.

The makers of the lube are most likely not kidding when they say "for external use only".

Good luck!
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sodabottlesodabottle on April 12th, 2013 02:31 am (UTC)
For what it's worth, I'm a new cup owner, and I found lube (water based sexy lube) helped enormously with insertion, not just when trying a "dry run" but one a really "slow" period day when I got the cup out but couldn't get it back in. I didn't have any luck putting the lube on myself as suggested though--inside, I put lube -just- on the upper rim/top of the cup, which helped it insert, and also seemed to help it pop open.
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living2laugh93 on April 12th, 2013 04:20 pm (UTC)
Thanks everyone for your help and ideas! I have tried several times to insert my cup but haven't had any luck yet. I notice it is easier and less uncomfortable once I started using coconut oil as lube, but still haven't been able to fully insert. Any more tips??

I think my problem must be angle since after getting about half of the rim in I feel a slight pain and the cup wont go in anymore. But I am aiming towards my back... so I'm not sure why I am having problems. I think my vagina curves a little to my right side and then straightens out the further in..?? I am sure the more I try the easier everything will get. This is the learning curve everyone talks about, right!:)
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