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02 April 2013 @ 08:23 pm
So I've been using the smaller sized diva cup for about 1 1/2 years. I've had relative success and my vaginal health has really improved. However, I'm now wondering if there is a better cup out there for me.

I've tried nearly every fold I've seen out there and the C fold is the only one I can get to open fully, but it still seems like I have to wrestle with the cup to get it in and open. Here are some of the problems I'm having... While folded, the cup is a little to big for my vaginal opening so I have to wedge one side in and then the other (often pretty uncomfortable). Then once I've gotten the first little ridge just over my pubic bone I open it. Most of the time I have issues with getting it to pop open, to the point where I'll often have to take it out, rinse it and start over. If the "C" is just barley holding it's pretty easy to get it to pop open, but if the "C" is tight (which most of the time it is because that’s how it goes in easiest) I have to press the full length (of the cup and my finger both) of the convex side of the C to get the concave side to the rounded position. At this point, one of 2 things happen, either it expands fully when I remove my finger ("yay success!", it's a little celebration every time for me) OR I pushed a little too hard for a little too long and the cup pops over into the "C" position but facing the other direction. When the C in the cup is facing that way I can't manipulate it, as it's awkward for my right hand and my left hand isn't coordinated enough. So if I'm lucky I can spin it and try again, but sometimes I can't get it to spin so I have to take it out and start over (Ugh!). All in all it's a pretty frustrating experience for me and can be so time consuming and painful that I give up and go for a tampon (which I really don't like doing).

Now I've used lube to get it in but then it goes sooo high that even with bearing down and all that it's pretty hard to grab so I usually just go without the lube.

Also even without the lube, my cup slowly gets higher and higher throughout the day/night and especially if I'm active. With lots of practice, I've now got a science on how to get it out. Sometimes it gets a little difficult though because its so dang high or a little extra slippery.

So, with every period, my right wrist will start to crackle and is sore for at least a couple days because I spend so much time with it bent trying to manipulate the cup. I climb and guide rafts for a living so a repetitive use injury due to my menses will not due! haha

Anyway, to rap up my novel long question (sorry!)... I'm assuming I have a very long and narrow vagina and I know I have short stubby fingers and frail wrists. So what I'm looking for in a cup is one that folds very small, pops open easily, and rides low or is very long. Is there any cup anyone knows of that would fit my bill? If not, what are your best suggestions?

Lastly has anyone had experience with the FemmyCycle Menstrual Cup? That's what I'm looking a getting next.

Thanks for taking the time!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 3rd, 2013 02:33 am (UTC)
Well, the Diva is the longest of the cups so you're probably best off sticking with it.

ANY cup will usually settle (O) around your cervix, however high or low it is that day. And the base of the cup will be relative to the length of the cup. In other words, any other cup will seem even higher because it's shorter.

Since you're having issues popping and breaking the seal for removal, try enlarging the anti-suction holes around the rim. The holes on the cup with the largest holes are 2mm or appx 1/16" or a 12g body piercing tool.

Also check the tags for other folds, and for removal tips and techniques.
etonish on April 3rd, 2013 02:56 am (UTC)
I have indeed enlarged the holes already. The problem isn't so much breaking the seal, actually being able to get it down far enough so I can grasp even just the stem is. Once I've got it in my hand the rest is breezy. While the removal process can be a bit tricky with the length, I can live with it.

My biggest problem is the getting it in and open.

Thanks! I'll look around again for some creative folds.
Kathlynekathlyne on April 3rd, 2013 03:06 am (UTC)
Maybe instead of pressing on the cup, try pressing the side or back wall of your vagina to let air into the cup and allow it to open. My Yuuki cup is pretty firm and pops open easily. It is about the same length as my diva, but definitely firmer.
teacupcake89 on April 3rd, 2013 10:54 am (UTC)
first of all you don't NEED to spin/twist/turn the cup once it's in! I wish the Divacup company would quit insisting upon this! if you find that's the best way for you to check the seal then stick with it, but otherwise don't bother! for me, that would break whatever seal I had going on!

to make the cup less slippery have some toilet paper or a towel at hand to keep wiping your fingers/self on until you can get a good grip.

If you look at the comparison photos here: the Si-bells (very soft)and large yuuki (which comes in soft option now) are both 74mms total length against the 70mms total length of your Diva. The keeper mooncups are 79mms in total length but are stiffer than your Diva.

depending on how far you have to reach even after bearing down you could consider the LilyCup that has a long narrow shape. the small is 77mms in length and the large is 1mm narrower than your 'small' Diva and is 82mms in length. It's also nice and soft.

i'm not sure if the femmycycle folds up small because it has a very round bulbous shape!
juliiie87juliiie87 on April 3rd, 2013 10:54 am (UTC)
The Diva is amongst the longest cups, however there are a few brands with a longer stem if you think that might help you... Check out Lunette, Natural Mamma, large Yuuki, and possibly Si-bell, although it's a very soft cup and grip-less, there has been reports of being able to yank it out by the stem, which would be pretty awesome. Compare those and a few others here : http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library

At this point the longest cup, stem included, would be the large Lily cup, but that's a somewhat different design and it has not been reviewed yet, methinks : http://www.intimina.com/en/lily_cup_pd.php#lc_benefits

According to Teresa's review, the Femmycycle doesn't quite pop open, it takes a lot of manoeuvering, or you just have to trust the manufacturer that it doesn't need to pop open all the way, either way I wouldn't risk it. It seems like a firmer cup might be a better bet if you're in the market for a new cup, or that Lily if you're feeling experimental. We'd love a full review. ;D

I totally forgot to mention it, my go-to fold is half diamond facing down, run under cold water and insert lying down. Totally fool-proof, approved with the softest cups. But just in case, have you tried punch down, traingle and origami as well ?

Edited at 2013-04-03 10:58 am (UTC)
wings_on_water: green ladywings_on_water on April 9th, 2013 10:45 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if this would be helpful, but the only fold I've been able to work that's both small enough to insert and easy enough to open is the "labia" fold. I also like it because unfolding is relatively symmetrical, so it doesn't get stuck to one side as easily. When folded, it makes a tube kind of shape that's not much bigger around than a tampon. I make the small, pinched middle part of the fold right on one of the air holes, and insert with the squashed folded part facing my back. That way if it doesn't pop open right away (it usually does with my larger cup but doesn't with my smaller one), I can just run my finger in between the vaginal wall and the cup along the non-squashed side that is facing my front, and I don't have to reach so far back to fiddle with it. That usually lets in enough air that the cup pops.

But you were looking for recs for a new cup, so feel free to ignore all this!