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kalypso6357
14 March 2013 @ 10:34 am
Hi all! I've never actually posted here before, though you all have been a HUGE asset during the past 9 or so months since I started with cups. I started with a Diva since it was readily available at a B&M store, then ordered a Lunette Selene when they were half off online. The Diva has always just been okay. Insertion is usually uneventful, except I struggle to get it to expand on my low cervix days due to the tiny holes. It's always comfortable, though. The Lunette ALWAYS opens with no problem, but on my more crampy, sensitive days, the firmer silicone is slightly uncomfortable and the stem can be pokey on low cervix days. All in all, I prefer my Lunette.

Problem is, it's gone missing. I've looked for it for the past 3 months and can't find it. I think my hubby may have accidentally tossed it. I decided to replace it, but went with the SckoonCup because I read here that it's softer, the stem is tapered and super flexible, I loved the darker blue "Meditation" color, and the price is comparable. I ordered it on the 8th, started my period the 9th, and received my cup on the 11th, so I was able to use it right away.

I really like the SckoonCup. It is noticeably softer than the Diva in the body and only slightly squishier at the rim. The diameter is pretty much the same. The body is shorter which is great for when my cervix moves down mid-cycle. I can't use my usual punch-down fold because the rim gets stuck inside, but the c-fold works just fine for getting it to pop open. I'm having an issue with the placement of the holes, though. They're nice and big, but they angle upward from the outside and open directly under the rim inside (pics below). My cervix is immediately past my pubic bone, which means that cups suction directly to my cervix as soon as they get past the bone and open. Since my cervix sits slightly inside my cups, and the SckoonCup holes are directly inside the rim, it completely covers the holes and air can't get into it AT ALL. The rim pops open perfectly, but the body of the cup stays collapsed in on itself. I find that I have to pull one side down just a teeny, tiny bit and ease it down on one side to let air in then try to ease it back up once it inflates. I usually end up pulling it too far and the whole cups slips out. After 2 days of fighting my SckoonCup, I'm pretty sore and very frustrated with it. I don't want to give up on it because it's insanely comfy when I DO get it in right, and it wasn't the cheapest cup ever. Any suggestions, fellow cuppers??? I really want this cup to work for me.

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iudmamaiudmama on March 14th, 2013 02:48 pm (UTC)
I flipped mine inside out and found it easier to pop open that way - it changes the angle of the holes. However, it does still seem to take some mangling to get it to open fully.
I was chalking up some of my difficulties with it to doing a dry run and hoping my cervix would be more cooperative when AF arrives. Maybe it's just a learning curve going to a super soft cup.
I'll keep experimenting with folds and let you know if I figure out a better technique.

It is a really pretty and comfortable cup ~ hopefully we'll both get the hang of it soon!
kalypso6357kalypso6357 on March 14th, 2013 06:01 pm (UTC)
I haven't tried flipping inside out. I tried it with my Diva once when my cervix was particularly low and it was a disaster. I worry that removing the SckoonCup would be too hard since it's short in the body and the inside is especially shiny and smooth...

If I figure this thing out, I'll let you know! Thanks for your comment!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on March 14th, 2013 04:38 pm (UTC)
The "vertical" anti-suction holes heading up to the rim instead of to the body of the cup are a unique design. Keep working at the learning curve. Maybe they're a good idea. But in the long run, if they prove not to be such a good idea after all, buy a 2mm punch and put 4 traditional holes around the rim.
iudmamaiudmama on March 14th, 2013 05:05 pm (UTC)
Extra holes might help, however, the SckoonCup is uniformly squishy, unlike the LadyCup which has a band of resistance around the holes (which I never noticed until I tried the SckoonCup)...
The Sckoon cup just doesn't have the "bounce back" to pop open easily.
I think the even squishy-ness makes it a very comfortable cup, but it will have a learning curve even for those of us who are used to a softer cup.
juliiie87juliiie87 on March 14th, 2013 07:52 pm (UTC)
Try the labia or orgami fold ? those and half diamond are my go-to for super soft cups, labia more specifically for round-bottomed cups. Every new cup comes with a learning curve, especially if it's softer AND a different shape than what you know.
kalypso6357kalypso6357 on March 14th, 2013 06:06 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I'll definitely keep at it. I love everything else about the cup. I'm thinking lower, horizontal holes could definitely work. I'll try that if it turns out that the holes really just won't work for me. Where would I find a 2mm punch?
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on March 15th, 2013 03:32 am (UTC)
Ebay.
teacupcake89 on March 14th, 2013 05:11 pm (UTC)
have you seen/tried all the tips for getting soft cups to pop open in this faq post? http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#comments
kalypso6357kalypso6357 on March 14th, 2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the link! I have seen that post, and the suggestions are great. I may have missed it, but I don't think there were any suggestions for my issue, unfortunately. The rim hasn't given me a single issue. It pops open and into place every time. Maybe too easily, because it doesn't leave time for air to fill the cup before my cervix blocks the holes. :o(
teacupcake89 on March 14th, 2013 06:23 pm (UTC)
what about pressing the vagina wall away from the cup after it's opened to create a channel for air to get into the cup? then you can wiggle it where you want it to be.

I wonder if it might be worth asking Sckooncup for advice? might be useful if others buying a sckooncup have the same problem.

I think you can get 2mm punches at body piercing places (they might even let you do it there if you take the cup with you!) or craft stores maybe?

edited because I spelt sckoon cup like 'school'!

Edited at 2013-03-14 06:24 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on March 15th, 2013 02:05 pm (UTC)
What about this post ?
http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html
If the cup suctions onto your cervix, you'll want to relieve that suction by introducing more air in there.
kalypso6357kalypso6357 on March 15th, 2013 02:20 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I hadn't seen that one, but that's exactly the issue I'm having. I've always used a finger to create a channel to allow air in, and with my first two cups it worked fine. With the SckoonCup, the air can't get over the rim (because it suctions to my cervix) and it can't enter through the holes, because they're blocked by said cervix. The only thing I've come up with is to slide a finger alongside the cup and dent it in a bit to break the suction. Then ease it down a bit, let it inflate, then try to nudge it back above the pubic bone. Sometimes it works, but I usually have to start over a few times because it won't go back into place without smooshing into a c-fold or I'll push one side back up and the other will slip out. This squishy little cup has me feeling like a cup newbie!
melissa569melissa569 on March 16th, 2013 07:50 am (UTC)
This is great, thank you for sharing! Mine are on the way in the mail now. I haven't checked the mail in like 2 days though so they may already be there. Can't wait to get some pics and share! :)
eatswithforkeatswithfork on March 16th, 2013 05:00 pm (UTC)
I see what you mean about the holes being so close to the top. It looks as if the fill with water, put your hand over the top, and squeeze method of cleaning holes wouldn't work with the Sckoon cup because it looks like your hand would block the holes.
grubgirl on April 9th, 2013 08:36 am (UTC)
My sckoon cup does the same thing I have to wiggle it till it opens up tho i find doing a couple of kegals while its in really helps for some reason, my main issue is actually getting it out again! The suction is so strong and the body is so squishy that I have to try and reach up right to the rim to break suction instead of being able to just pinch the base, it's quite time consuming and can be painful :( it's a shame, this cup is so comfortable once its in.

Edited at 2013-04-09 09:57 pm (UTC)
tmcaurinus on April 11th, 2013 09:19 pm (UTC)
Great info, y'all!
I received my very first reusable menstrual cup, the Sckoon, about a week ago, and as AF began her arrival yesterday, I used it today for the first time. Initially I tried the C-fold suggested on Sckoon's website, but got painful results when first, all that rim folded together made it too big to insert comfortably, and then it wouldn't stay folded unless my fingers were very near the rim, so it popped open way too soon, just barely inside, which hurt, and it also hurt upon removal. I did some googling, found this thread, read about trying other folds, looked up some videos, and then tried the punch-down fold, thinking the origami would be next if that didn't work. Punch-down worked on the second try, once I figured out how to carefully move my fingers lower on the cup during insertion while still holding it folded. Then some feeling around it with my fingers and wiggling it, messing with its position, and voila--I can't even feel it in there! Whee!

Before this, the closest thing I'd used was the disposable Instead, which was also a bit tricky and uncomfortable to insert, and difficult to tell if it was positioned properly over the cervix, and had such a large, firm ring that I could sometimes feel it in there, stretching me out. The only reason I can think of to use that type of cup instead of this type is if one wants to have intercourse with it in, but back when I tried that, it caused some leakage anyway, so why even have anything in there? Just remove cup, shower well, and sex away. Maybe with a towel beneath.