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tauq
12 March 2013 @ 04:07 pm
Hi Community!

I ADORE my Divacup, but many of you suggested in a previous post of mine that a softer cup might help relieve the pressure my Diva puts on my bladder (Because feeling like you have to tinkle all the time isn't entirely pleasant).


THE SITUATION:

I love my size 1 Diva in every way except that little annoyance of feeling like I have to pee way too often.
As far as diameter goes, I don't want to go too much bigger as removal can already be a bit yeeouch sometimes thanks to the size of the rim.
As for length, despite having light periods I like the length of the Diva as I only barely have to poke my finger inside, at any given time, to feel the stem (Which is cut rather short). I'm only really assuming my Diva stays in place thanks to the length though
I should add that I'm under 25, sexually active, and have never given birth
I also feel I should mention I'm allergic to latex (Although I think most cups are made from silicone)
EDIT: In addition, I have no idea where my cervix is, haha! I'm assuming it's rather high since I can't feel it with a finger, and yet my cup doesn't ride up at all so... ???


THE CONCERNS:

If I get a smaller one, is there going to be a chance of leakage? Or if it's shorter, will it ride up too high for me to reach?
Will the softness change make a difference?


WHICH CUP/S WOULD YOU RECOMMEND?


I've currently been looking at the Natural Mamma, Cuplee, and Meluna Soft. Even if I do make a choice on one, I'm still teetering as to what size to get (ex. Meluna Soft medium looks too small, but the large diameter seems too big)
 
juliiie87juliiie87 on March 12th, 2013 11:29 pm (UTC)
The large Meluna's diameter is only 1 mm wider than a small Diva, that's practically a hair, so nothing. Compare actual dimensions here : http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

I would recommend Cuplee (<3), small Miacup and... Naturcup size I (the medium size), which are all very similar in shape to your Diva, the first 2 being slightly shorter with a longer stem, the Naturcup being a squishy body/firm rim combo, and just 2mm shorter I think, so practically nothing. Natural Mamma is also in the same range as your Diva, but the shape is different (more U-shaped,as is the Meluna) and it sounds like you may have to trim the stem, which I'm not sure how comfortable that would be with this particular shape. Compare them here :http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library
Other than that, there's a few new brands that might slip my mind... there's the Gaia that's the length of a Diva but wider and supposedly soft, and there's the soft Yuuki that's nice and long but you'll want a large so it's wider... but soft, so it would likely be fine comfort-wise. Generally I find softness helps a great deal with removal pain, especially on V-shaped cups such as Cuplee.
tauqtauq on March 13th, 2013 12:13 am (UTC)
I've gone over the size charts, softness charts, and pictures what seems like a dozens times! Nothing beats real person input though.

I'll have to look more into the Naturcup and Gaia. Also, with your love of the Cuplee, do you know a better place to buy it than off their main website? Their payment methods aren't exactly the most convenient(I'm a credit card kinda gal.)

Do you know how the softness of the soft Yuuki compares to others? I've heard the original Yuuki is really firm, so I'd be worried the soft Yuuki wouldn't be much softer than a Diva.

Also, would choosing a slightly smaller cup help with the comfort as well, or should I just go softer? I'm wary of even that extra millimeter difference, between the large Meluna and Diva, giving me more discomfort! Especially since reading smaller cups might help relieve that pressure.

Sorry to bombard you with so many questions! Call me cautious, but I love as much info as I can get though before buying anything!
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tinkerandcrabtinkerandcrab on March 13th, 2013 12:01 am (UTC)
I gave my Natural Mamma another whirl this cycle, and I find that, even though it is super soft, it seems to be a *bulky* cup that tends to press on my bowels a lot (sorry tmi) and gives me the feeling of needing to eliminate even when I don't need to, in comparison with my Small Lunette, which never presses on my bowels but DOES sometimes put slight pressure on my bladder. The Lunette is my Cinderella cup, and gives me the least trouble of all four cups I've tried, and I think it's not just because it's squishy but also because it has less bulk overall (which of course means less capacity, but I don't have any capacity issues so I'm lucky). Rereading your post, OP, I see that you also have light periods, so I would recommend trying a lower capacity cup like the small Lunette... even though you have a high cervix, much distance can be breached by *bearing down* and moving the cup down within reach of your fingers... I speak from experience, as I had to really teach myself that skill so I could removed my cup without having to wrestle with my vagina... now it's second nature and I'm in and out of the bathroom in a flash.
tauqtauq on March 13th, 2013 12:20 am (UTC)
Thanks for the info! I might just cross the Natural Mamma off the list then (Don't want to trade one problem for another!)

The smaller capacity of the small Lunette might be better for me, but I'm worried I'd be in the same boat as the Diva with the whole light bladder pressure thing. The discomfort I have with the Diva sounds VERY similar to your Lunette. I may just be overly picky trying to find the perfect cup! lol
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on March 13th, 2013 03:09 am (UTC)
I have to agree about the Natural Mamma. I think rounded bottom cups just feel bulkier to me; the cups I find most comfortable are narrow and tapered. I can't even feel my small LadyCup, although it has a fairly firm rim (very soft, tapered body). The small Lunette is a little more hoop shaped than the LadyCup and presses in more. I think the Cuplee could be a good choice if you like the Diva shape but want something softer.
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tinkerandcrabtinkerandcrab on March 13th, 2013 12:35 am (UTC)
Yes, I also tend to be somewhat of a perfectionist, which is why I went ahead and purchased two LONG cups after I had already had quite a degree of satisfaction with the Lunette, but at the time I hadn't mastered the whole bearing down thing, and my vagina felt like a black hole and I was searching for a very long and skinny cup that never quite materialized... since then I've acquired more skillz and decided that the small Lunette is good enough for me... BUT!

I sometimes wonder if I wouldn't just do better with one of those teeny tiny Meluna Soft Minis... my flow is so light that the capacity would be fine for me, and I bet I wouldn't feel any bladder pressure at all with a cup so small. My only concern would be if my muscles are fancy enough to expel a cup that is THAT short... maybe? Would love a cup that small with a super long squishy tab stem (almost as long as a tampon string!)

However, four cups is definitely more than enough for me... :^D
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on March 13th, 2013 01:52 am (UTC)
i think the real problem with your diva isn't the width of the rim but the fact that it's stiffer than the rest of the cup. so if you pick something softer you'll be safe <3
i'm a virgin and i can say that the width matters very little when the cup is in. it's the insertion that might be difficult, but even this wasn't as much of a problem as i expected. as you're sexually active, i don't think it'll be a problem at all.

sometimes i wonder if the companies recommend small cups in so many cases just to sell more of them. for example, if you have strong muscles but a heavy flow, you'll see that your cup indeed works, but the capacity isn't enough. in this case many will get the large of the same brand. most brands basically recommend their small to everyone who can physically wear it without leakage, regardless of whether they'd be able to wear a large or not.

also, it's not like you're wasting the capacity if it's higher than what you need. in fact, a half-full cup is easier to empty without a mess. and of course if you're going to use your cup for 10 years, your flow might change.

if you want to know what a shorter cup will be like, just flip your diva inside out. it'll be 51-52 mm long.
tinkerandcrabtinkerandcrab on March 13th, 2013 04:03 am (UTC)
I disagree in as much as I think it is desirable to get as small a cup as one's capacity demands will allow... because of the above-mentioned Bulk issue and the pressing on adjacent organs. Squishiness only goes so far in avoiding this problem, as demonstrated by the Natural Mamma.
tauqtauq on March 13th, 2013 06:09 am (UTC)
I think I'm too paranoid to flip my Diva inside out! I think I rely on what little stem I have left too much!

I appreciate all the input - especially on softness versus rim size! It makes sense that a softer cup would probably be easier to insert too, even if it IS a little wider.

I think removal is always going to be messy for me - high capacity cup or not! I always have to contort it into weird shapes just to remove it without pain. You've got a very good point about flow changing though.
juliiie87juliiie87 on March 13th, 2013 07:31 pm (UTC)
"It makes sense that a softer cup would probably be easier to insert too, even if it IS a little wider".

AND ESPECIALLY easier to remove !
The tappered, soft base of the Cuplee is perfect in that regard. My large Fleurcup feels like the other extreme to me, because the fact that it is, in my opinion, a bit firmer than my other cups, is being exacerbeted by the rounder, wider shape.

Edited at 2013-03-13 07:32 pm (UTC)
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tobilei on March 13th, 2013 01:58 am (UTC)
I have the same problem with my large Diva :( Otherwise I've ironed out all the kinks and it'd be great.

I purchased both a medium and large MeLuna soft 2 months ago in hopes they would help with the issue. I also have a high cervix and have found that the medium one tends to ride up quite high so if you're not comfortable with fishing around I'd probably skip it. I find mine leaks, not sure if that's because it rides up or it's just too small.

The large one I cut the stem off. Once it's in it's okay. I've had a few leaks but I think that's because I'm finding it an absolute horror to get open.

ETA: I think I also find the rounded shape on the bottom a little less comfortable than the diva. I'll be looking for that more pointed tapered end on my next cup.

Edited at 2013-03-13 01:59 am (UTC)
tauqtauq on March 13th, 2013 06:15 am (UTC)
That's disappointing to hear how hard the large Meluna Soft is to open, as that one was a real contender for me! Dimension-wise, it's almost identical to the Diva!

I didn't realize at all that the large Meluna had a rounded bottom, since the medium one is so tapered (I just assumed they'd be the same). I think I'll cross Meluna off the list then - thanks for the input! <3
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on March 13th, 2013 07:42 am (UTC)
that was the old style meluna, now known as meluna mini. http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/t224-meluna-comparison-photos
if you cross the options off your list so easily, you'll have nothing left soon;)
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Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on March 15th, 2013 09:27 pm (UTC)
also about the meluna: the name medium is just a name. the more appropriate names for the sizes they offer would be:
XS, S, M, L.
teacupcake89 on March 16th, 2013 09:55 am (UTC)
THIS! :) and XXS for the Mini Meluna.