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28 February 2013 @ 10:24 am
Has anyone bought and tried the generic cups sold on Ebay? I did a search on Ebay and there are number of cups sold from China at a too good to be true price, so I am hesitant to purchase. I really appreciate any information provided about these products.

Thanks!!
 
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on February 28th, 2013 09:17 pm (UTC)
The cups on eBay (the ones that come in white, pink, and purple) are mostly Lunette knock-offs. (There's one that looks like a Lunette with a Natural Mamma oval tab stem; the others have the flat rectangular stems.) I think they might be repackaged Green Donnas? The Green Donna company went out of business after some legal trouble with Lunette, so these might be the leftovers, or it's possible another Chinese factory has started to make its own. Green Donnas are supposed to be slightly squishier than Lunettes, with slightly different hole placement and surface finish.

You can find more user accounts under the Green Donna tag: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/tag/green%20donna . Most people seem to have gotten theirs from eBay.

I swapped for a knock-off of a Diva Cup, the Jasmine, and quality-wise it seems a bit poorer than the other [legit] cups I have (sharper seams, bent stem, holes incompletely perforated), but it still works. However, I generally prefer to support the companies that came up with the original design.
tauqtauq on February 28th, 2013 10:56 pm (UTC)
Personally, I don't think I'd get anything I wasn't sure about near my sensitive bits! I would opt for purchasing your cups from the company's website, to be certain you're getting a good product and for the customer support if you're not completely satisfied.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on March 1st, 2013 02:06 am (UTC)
I have issues with their ethics in that I don't like that they're knock-offs -- they've copied/stolen intellectual property -- but I don't think there's anything wrong with the cups themselves.
djehutys_wisdom on March 1st, 2013 03:08 pm (UTC)
knock-off cups
There are really two different issues with these cups:

First off, there's the ethical question. Do you want to support the companies that have invested the time and effort to invent good cup designs, test them for safety and effectiveness, get them approved by various government health agencies (ie FDA, TGA, etc), market them, etc?

The second is do you trust a company that has already committed what amounts to theft and dishonesty (by stealing designs and then marketing them as something they invented) to actually create a safe product? Do you believe they really used medical-grade silicone to create the cup instead of a cheaper variety? Do you believe they made sure impurities did not get into the mixture? It only takes a very tiny amount of chemical something to impact your physiology when it is inside your vagina (which is why a NuvaRing can contain less hormone than an oral birth-control pill and still be effective).

neetzscheneetzsche on March 1st, 2013 03:49 pm (UTC)
If you don't care about copyright concerns, a brand-new lunette or ladycup for 19 dollars sounds like a great opportunity. However, one downside from buying cups not made from an actual company is that you have no idea what it's made of.

A good analogy for this is sex toys. They aren't regulated by the FDA and cheap toys often contain cancer-causing agents like phthalates. Here's a good article about that. Safe for work but it's about sex toys.

If it's at all possible that the pirate cups are made from the same material as cheap sex toys, I wouldn't take the risk. After all, many people switch to cups because they're concerned about chemicals in disposable products, so why risk it with something worse?
honkusg on March 6th, 2013 03:52 pm (UTC)
I have one
I just bought one. I had used the Diva Cup for 4 years or so, and it eventually started leaking. The price of the Ebay china ones ($12!)was encouraging, especially since I was purchasing one for my 13 year old daughter as well. I did not have $60 to throw down for cups. I figured that since I'm already comfortable with using a cup, I'd know pretty quickly if this one wasn't working up to par.

So far, so good. For me, anyway.. Daughter says it's huge and she felt like she was giving birth when she removed it. (She is also a drama queen.) It is pretty much just like my Diva, except I don't think it has the measurement marks-- which I did kind of like, just because it is neat to know. It's not uncomfortable, not a problem to insert or remove, and it is doing its job. Like someone else mentioned, the seam is more pronounced than that of the Diva. It isn't something I can feel, though.

I will read the link about cancer-causing sex toys... Morality aside, it just seems to me like it would be a bad business move for a company to make cups that cause cancer. It is definitely not the "jelly stuff," and appears to be silicone, from my layperson's perspective.

Edited at 2013-03-06 04:11 pm (UTC)
jezebelsauntflo on March 6th, 2013 10:36 pm (UTC)
Re: I have one
I do wonder about what is in them. For a person looking to make a quick buck it would be easy to sell cups made from cheap, cancerous materials. I think I will avoid these cups and stick the better known brands.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on March 6th, 2013 10:54 pm (UTC)
Re: I have one
I think it should be okay, safety-wise. Silicone is one of the safer plastics that doesn't require softeners like phthalates, and has a long history of safe internal use as implants. Cancer is caused by mutations within DNA, which are caused by high level or prolonged exposure to things (including sunlight, chemicals, smoking, etc.). I would be very surprised if using your eBay cups a few days a month raised your risk significantly.

I do like seeing the greater availability of menstrual cups and hope that the lower price gives options to those who can only afford the copies. I'm an environmentalist and a pragmatist, and one cup, whatever its origin, can prevent a lot of waste. At the same time, since I do have the money, I prefer to support the small, usually women-run companies designing the originals. They're up against the big corporate tampon/pad makers with huge advertising budgets as well as Chinese factories that copy their designs.
jezebelsauntflo on March 6th, 2013 11:19 pm (UTC)
Re: I have one
I use cups already and have even tried convincing others as well. I was just curious of the experiences anyone might have had with the knock-off cups. I am greatful to all who responded with whatever advice or information they had to give. Thank you.
Shanghaikashanghaika on March 14th, 2013 03:57 am (UTC)
I live in China since 2000 and wouldn't bother to buy China-produced cups. Never heard we have m.cups production line here. All of mine (had three cups, two were lost by my helper) were brought from abroad, not China-made)

Edited at 2013-03-14 03:57 am (UTC)