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24 February 2013 @ 05:43 pm
Hi! I am 29 years old virgin and my first menstrual cup was the Diva Cup 1. It was on sale plus it was more accessible for me at the time. I started using the cup yesterday. At first it was a bit uncomftarble getting it in, I try the C-fold but that was horrible then tried the other more common fold which is folding part of it to the center. I managed to learn inserting it but removing it was more painful until today in which I found a total different position for the removal. I am writing to ask you because I am sure I am putting it on correctly but still I have some leakage accompanied by some excruciating pain that yesterday I was not experiencing. The pain was so much that I removed the cup an put on a pad and it went down a bit. I have never felt my menstrual cramps as I had today. Also my cup was getting half-full by the 3th to 4th hour. Is it a cup problem or was I was inserting incorrectly? I mean I slide it horizontally while lifting one leg up which was more comfortable for me and I gave it a 360 degree turn and very that it was all round up there but still experience some leakages accompany with some hard cramps.

As for the removal I found out that it was the best for me to sit on the toilet and do pelvic pushes downwards while pulling the stem as the cup was getting closer to the outside I insert one of my fingers to do some sort of c-fold for the removal. I discover that this lessens the pain and tear feeling of the removal.
 
ionracasionracas on February 24th, 2013 11:14 pm (UTC)
My first experiences were exactly as you are describing, but it got a lot easier and the cramping is very mild now. Make sure to check that it has opened fully, it should feel perfectly round, sometimes it can be half open which can cause leaks and cramping.
redrubyeyes on February 24th, 2013 11:25 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your input! I for now will use it as I get used to it only at home and for work the old stuff ( pads because tampons give this ugly sensation that is rubbing and ripping me inside even if I ha for less than 5 mins). But for the rest of the evening I will use a pad. It has so far wane down. For sure I am going to sleep with it because last night for the first time in my life I did not had a bloody Mary episode in the middle of the night.

How can I verify this? That is fully open? I tried inserting a bit of my finger and rotating it. Anyhow I would give it another go later tonight.I guess this is part of the process.
ionracasionracas on February 24th, 2013 11:29 pm (UTC)
Run your finger around it to make sure it feels perfectly round, not pinched in.
inazumarionrhodinazumarionrhod on February 25th, 2013 02:30 pm (UTC)
I would have to go with this suggestion. I can't turn mine--or at least haven't been able to yet. I don't usually feel or hear popping open, but I find that the times I've felt around the cup and made sure there were no dents are the ones I haven't had leakage. Overwhelmingly, you'll find when you don't have leaks--at least until the cup is full--it probably means the cup was open and inserted properly.


I don't have pain issues, but as for the leakage... Just how much leaking are you experiencing? I've found that I tend to have a little, especially after replacing, since as the cup doesn't absorb, anything dripping down in the meantime may get past it. This has tended not to be a lot of blood, though; I see it on the toilet paper after urinating, and maybe a spot or two on my liner. This is fairly normal, I think. If you're getting more than just a little, that could be a placement issue.

The fact that you're that sensitive to tampons might explain part of why the cramping is so bad for you; if you're not used to having anything there, it makes sense that a cup might not be really comfortable right away. From your "bloody Mary" anecdote, though, it sounds like getting accustomed to cups will probably be worth it. (I used to have those scenarios... Even with super plus tampons AND overnight pads! The cup is much better.)

Once you're better with getting the cup to open and leaving it in for longer periods of time, you might think of trying different kinds of cups, and if cramping is still a problem, a softer cup might be a good idea. For now, I'd experiment with the different folds in the video Michelleh linked to and see which are easiest to get to open and most comfortable. Everyone's different, but I have the same cup and model and have found the origami fold useful. (Careful if you try the S fold... The cup may spring open and jump right out of your hand, LOL.)

I'm still a cup newbie--only just finished my first cycle with mine--but I'm pretty happy. I'm sure you can get yours to work for you; it's definitely worth it! :)
ext_1626869 on February 25th, 2013 01:15 am (UTC)
I second that I had a first experience similar to this. A cup that is not all the way unfolded is so uncomfortable! My first cup was a Diva 1 and I had the hardest time getting it to unfold properly.

Anyways, I ended up doing some research and purchasing a large Lunette even though I was 24 and a virgin, so I always know that it unfolds because I can feel it (couldn't with the diva). What I also do now is give the cup a tug on the stem to see if I've got a good seal and I cant simply pull it out. Have you tried doing this with your Diva?
Michellemichelleh324 on February 25th, 2013 03:57 am (UTC)
http://youtu.be/Ep5hh0W-nFw?t=1m35s

These folds should work with all cups. I use the Punchdown Fold with the DivaCup, and it's not nearly as difficult as she makes it look in the video.
juliiie87juliiie87 on February 25th, 2013 09:45 pm (UTC)
A lot of great advice has been given already.
For popping open, I use the half diamond fold, which is very intricate because my main cup is reeeeally soft.
About leaking after 3 to 4 hours... well it just sound like you have a really heavy flow. You might want to updrade to a higher capacity cup once you get the hang of this one.
As for cramping, it could just be your body getting used to it, or you're very sensitive and would prefer a softer cup. Or if the cup was still folded or squished next to your cervix instead of (o) around it, that would certainly be uncomfortable. As for twisting... don't waste your energy, it's really unecessary. Find your own way of telling that the cup is open, as others have suggested.
redrubyeyes on February 26th, 2013 02:16 am (UTC)
HI! I tried last night with the C- Fold although I did not felt it before sleeping I was surprise to see that the very upper part of the cup was still unfolded it. Just a tiny little bit as I removed it. I am wondering if there is a way to unfold it completely once it was inserted it? I am just taking baby steps for now with the divacup I will wear it for now overnight and then little by little go further longer with the cup. I want to be sure that I wear it and be folded properly before going out to do my daily things with it during these days.

As for being a heavy bleeder I am only on the 2nd half day through the the entire 3rd day. But for the rest of the cycle is very regular until the 5th through the late 6th day which is light to spotting.

As for the pulling of the stem I get the feeling of suction but faintly then I am able to move the cup higher or move it. SO I guess this is a big give away, then?

Thanks to everyone for their input and for your encouragement! :-)
juliiie87juliiie87 on February 26th, 2013 12:24 pm (UTC)
The punch-down fold I find difficult to pop open, because the folded part cannot be reached directly with your fingers, unlike the c-fold, labia, half diamond & triangle fold. I would try to poke, pinch, pull gently and basically you need to create an air channel with your finger so air can reach the top of the cup and help it inflate. It's easier to do this if you insert the cup low at first, THEN once it's open you can coax it up the rest of the way. But if it's not leaking, then it's probably open.
redrubyeyes on February 26th, 2013 01:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks! + Update
I tried last night with several but it seems that the diamond fold or the half diamond did pop I heard it literally, jaja. I tried getting it a bit more inside but I started to notice the leakage and the discomfort still I was able to move the cup downward the leakage stopped. I tried pulling it upwards with kegel exercise or pushing a bit further with the finger. I stood up felt still the discomfort while the cup was with half of the stem out but covered with the skin I did not felt any discomfort at all. I think I will tried cutting a bit the stem just to see and for a future purchase get a softer cup(I will read the part of the softer cups).

I forgot to mention I managed to sleep a full 7 hours sure I had some leakages but I decided to check if the cup was full. Well I was not able to see it full but got what I think was around a considerable amount of blood in my hand and when I got it out the cup was a bit more than half full. So I assumed that today's leakage was due to be fully. I got the cup out my pushing down and then pinching the base follow by pinching one part of the cup sort of like a c-fold.

As I am speaking I am in my one hour with it after the change and no leakage so far but still the faint discomfort. The cup is sitting low and if I move it upwards I am afraid it will be getting the cramps again while I am sitting but if I am standing it just almost disappears( almost). I guess I am sensitive and I need to get used to it. Thanks!