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16 January 2013 @ 06:19 pm
So I've been using a Diva Cup for many months, and have been vigilantly following care instructions to lengthen the life of my cup. It says not to use oil based soaps, so I use the Diva Wash on my whole body during my period. The nub thing sticks out of my body a teeny bit (comfortably) and I stopped using my cold process soap ( oil and lye soap) as a precaution.

Lately, I've been getting real sick of washing with this Diva gel. I miss my CP soap! Do I really have to give it up during this time of the month? I'd also love to take a bath with one of my moisturizing bath bombs. They have added almond oil in them.

I was also thinking of using cold process soap on the rest of my body, and only using the Diva gel on my nether regions...but the suds would still run down there!

Can I use these products safely or should I continue to avoid them? Thanks!
 
ElianaOpalopal581 on January 17th, 2013 02:41 am (UTC)
The oil in your soap should be fully saponified by the lye, and safe to use in the proximity of a silicone cup. The extra oil the bath bomb would concern me, but I don't think enough of your stem should extend past your labia to be degraded by that little oil.
coffeehound23coffeehound23 on January 17th, 2013 02:54 am (UTC)
I take my cup out for shower and baths. Wash my cup with a gentle soap and set it aside, then reinsert after my shower. Would that be an option?
missjeanbee on January 17th, 2013 03:00 am (UTC)
Some of my CP soaps are super fatted, and I think that means there's unsaponified oils in them. I wouldn't be able to tell which bars are super fatted or not.

I would totally take the cup out during baths and showers, but I'm scared of bleeding everywhere. In the shower it would be no big deal, unless I started bleeding while drying off. I might experiment with this on my lighter days!
ionracasionracas on January 17th, 2013 10:50 am (UTC)
You wouldn't really bleed out in a bath, the pressure of the bath water keeps the blood from flowing out.
Lady Felis of Domestica: avatarfelisd on January 21st, 2013 05:51 pm (UTC)
I'm with ionracas: When I take baths, they last for an hour or more. And I've taken those long baths on my period before without the cup in, and never leaked into the water once, even on heavy days. Heck, I've found that I've never even leaked in the shower even on my heavy days.
missjeanbee on January 21st, 2013 06:03 pm (UTC)
Hm, well I definitely remember bleeding everywhere in the shower when I was younger. Maybe I'm not so lucky!
Lady Felis of Domesticafelisd on January 22nd, 2013 01:33 pm (UTC)
LOL! I wasn't so lucky either. If I was going to leak, it usually happened when I stepped out of the shower. It stopped happening as I got older though. Maybe subconsciously, we learn to tighten the muscles to hold it in?
Tweekietweekie on January 17th, 2013 03:06 am (UTC)
Unless you are soaping up your fingers and putting them up your vagina and rubbing them around on your cup, using any soap you want on your body is not going to damage your cup. Really, it isn't, whether in a bath or shower. And even washing your "nether regions", you should not be using soap on the inside of your vagina anyway - it can mess with your Ph levels and cause infection. Washing your outer labia with soap will also not damage your cup.

Diva wash is made for washing the cup, not for washing your body.

Personally, I've been using a cup for about 5 years, and have never ever used soap to clean it, and not had any detrimental effects. I rinse it with very hot water at the end of each cycle to get any residual blood off/out of the holes, and then soak it in a 50/50 hydrogen peroxide/water solution overnight to remove stains. I air-dry it, and then store it in its bag until the next month.
coffeehound23coffeehound23 on January 17th, 2013 03:18 am (UTC)
Your body stops bleeding while in water, I can generally get an hour long bath, before it starts again. I put my cup in then dry off, thus everything stays clean. :)
missjeanbee on January 17th, 2013 03:21 am (UTC)
That is seriously awesome. How does it work? How does your body know to stop bleeding while in water and how can it tell?

mood_swinger23 on January 17th, 2013 08:15 am (UTC)
I imagine something about pressure. Someone told this to me once, too, and I tried it (we had to use the pool in HS gym!)but it didn't work. That was a horrible discovery to have to go through.
juliiie87juliiie87 on January 17th, 2013 02:46 pm (UTC)
Usually you wouldn't bleed in the bath or pool, but possibly as soon as you get out of the water, most likely something to do with pressure or your vag remaining pretty much closed from the water. It also happened to me once when my cup filled with water (not a common occurence according to the replies I got here, I'm thinking it wasn't open all the way).
coffeehound23coffeehound23 on January 17th, 2013 03:43 am (UTC)
Honestly, I don't know how your body knows, my mom told me about it not long after I started my periods. At 12 I was freaked out about the cleaning aspect of it anyway so it really helped to know that I had time in the shower/bath without having to worry about the extra clean up.
Tessgryphonwing on January 17th, 2013 03:44 am (UTC)
I use coconut oil for lube. It's contacted my cup many times... I'm not sure what the concern is. I'd be more unwilling to use soap between my inner labia our internally than worried about oil and the cup.

Seriously, I use coconut oil with silicone all the time. :)
juliiie87juliiie87 on January 17th, 2013 02:48 pm (UTC)
This. Oil and latex (or rubber, think condoms) are a no-no, but oil and silicone should be fine. They're not the same thing ! ;)
mood_swinger23 on January 18th, 2013 07:11 pm (UTC)
The Keeper is made of latex though, right? Shouldn't that be noted so people don't use oil with their Keeper?
m03m on January 19th, 2013 11:25 pm (UTC)
Sure, but since this thread is about a Diva, I'm not seeing a problem here.

Praised be the overall awesomeness of coconut oil. Great stuff.
neetzscheneetzsche on January 17th, 2013 03:12 pm (UTC)
I actually use vegetable soaps to clean my cups in between cycles with no ill effects. Silicone's a stable material. As far as I know, you only have to keep other silicone products away from them.
Keekeestone on January 17th, 2013 03:25 pm (UTC)
I used a Diva Cup for several years without ever buying their special wash and I never saw any sort of degradation of silicone. Other than boiling it to sanitize it, I've cleaned it with regular soap, vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, rubbing alcohol, and most commonly either a ph balanced feminine wash or just a plain water rinse. I just make sure the cup is rinsed clean of any residue (cause, yeah. Don't want soap in my vagina for obvious reasons). The only reason I ended up replacing a couple months ago was that I accidentally let it boil dry and it got discolored and smelly where it was touching the bottom of the pot. Diva cups are a lot more durable than they make it sound when they're trying to flog more products.

You should be just fine using the soap and bath bombs you like to use on yourself.


Edited at 2013-01-17 03:27 pm (UTC)
missjeanbee on January 17th, 2013 05:36 pm (UTC)
Thanks everyone for the help! I guess I just bought into the marketing of their Diva Wash. I feel like a sucker.

I totally need extra pampering when I'm on my period and using the CP soap and bath bombs will be so comforting to me! Yay!
Maxine of Arc: Musashi by Kate Beatonmaxineofarc on January 18th, 2013 04:00 pm (UTC)
The Diva Wash won't hurt you! But to be honest, I never use soap on my cup at all. I just rinse it thoroughly, and once in a while maybe I'll boil it. Never experienced any problems.