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27 December 2012 @ 11:53 pm
So I have a Fleurcup that I've been using for about 4 cycles now.

The first cycle it was fantastic! I only had leaking a few times when there was overflow, and I was prepared for that and wearing pads as back up. Really really wonderful, and when I used it, for the first time since I started having periods, I did not have horrid cramps!

However, on the second cycle I had a bit of leaking a few times that was not because of overflow. Nothing too bad, just a bit of spottyness.

On the third cycle, I had even more problems with leakage. I figured that I had gotten too confident or was maybe in too much of a rush when I was putting it in, so I made sure to take my time and really try to feel around to make sure it was in right, which did not help at all.

I'm now on my fourth cycle of using it, and it's like it's not even catching the blood at all. I really don't know what's going on here. I've poked up inside me and made sure my cervix isn't somewhere weird and as far as I can tell, it isn't.

After reading some other posts, it looks like twisting it probably isn't helping and is probably part of the problem, as once I started having leaks I started really trying to twist it to "make it seal". But I also don't think that's the whole problem as I started having leaking before I really started twisting a lot. I'm thinking maybe a different fold or something? I'm currently using the origami fold as when I was trying to do different folds when I first got it, it kept ending up in that position, lol. I'll also note that the first two cycles when I was using it, I would sometimes feel it pop open up to an hour after I put it in.
Any other suggestions or ideas? Suggestions for specific folds that might work better if that's maybe part of the problem?
Darling Nikkijessiebanana on December 28th, 2012 06:49 am (UTC)
Well it sounds like you're not making sure your cup is fully open before you leave the restroom? If you're doing that than it's luck of the draw. You got lucky the first couple periods that it was opening relatively soon, or that the blood was flowing into the cup even though there was a gap in the seal.

It's one thing for the cup to shift after you've been walking around and quite another for it to pop open. I'd focus less on the twisting and just make sure you run your finger around the rim and that all sides of the rim are touching your vaginal walls. Whatever fold you use to get it in, once inside you can maneuver it open. I do find that any fold that requires a punch down inside is a lot more difficult to get open in a soft cup.
juliiie87juliiie87 on December 28th, 2012 01:01 pm (UTC)
What jessiebanana said, twisting is not a foolproof method, just a trick the Diva company came up with (targeted at squeamish users I bet). Cheking with your finger that it's fully rounded and that your cervix isn't peeking outside the rim is far more effective. Forming a seal means being fully unfolded and encircling your cervix (o).

I only use the softest cups, and mostly two folding methods, which are also amongst the least common : half diamond for V-shaped cups (Cuplee) and labia for U-shaped cups (Meluna, Fleurcup is one of those too). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6L-POE-b0 I had some luck with the origami in the beginning too, but ultimately I agree with Jessie that any fold where the rim is squished inwards is less likely to pop open. And by that I mean pop open at once, because with soft cups, popping open is often a process ; you can't really insert them like you would a tampon and leave them there all squished up to do their thing.

One last thing to mention, spotting is actually normal as it's usually the blood that was already hanging low in your vagina that the cup couldn't catch, because unlike tampons, they don't absorb. Leaking like it wasn't there, now that's a placement issue.

Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 28th, 2012 02:58 pm (UTC)
If it's stubborn to pop open, try facing the fold the other way before inserting. Left instead of right, up instead of down, etc. Sometimes that makes all the difference in the world.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on December 29th, 2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
coelho calls that beginner's luck:) i've had that too....
see this post about popping open: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html
mkchimkchi on December 30th, 2012 12:03 am (UTC)
I had this issue with my fleurcup for the first two periods! I found out that usually it was just blood that leaked out while I was washing out my cup, but I've never bothered with twisting it once it's in. Instead I just run my finger around the rim and make sure it's all the way around my cervix. Every once in a while it gets a little dislodged (I'm not quite sure how?) but when I feel myself leaking and go to check it's because it moved a little bit off to the side.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on December 30th, 2012 11:47 am (UTC)
as for dislodging, one possibility is due to having a bowel movement with the cup in?
Zzsomeone on January 4th, 2013 08:16 pm (UTC)
I have no solution but a similar story. I started with a Fleurcup and had that happen a lot, I'd double check everything and it all seemed just perfect, yet 30 minutes later I was a leaky mess with an almost empty cup. It drove me crazy trying to figure it out. But sometimes it worked perfectly, which made this even stranger.

Unfortunately, I never could work out what was going wrong. I gave up and bought a new and softer cup, and have had no problems since. Maybe it was the stiffness? I really don't know.

I guess sometimes it just takes more than one try to find a cup that really works for you.
lemmons998 on January 27th, 2013 07:49 pm (UTC)
Hello all,
Thanks for the replies. In the middle of the next period now, and things are going much better. I stopped doing all the different things I had been trying to do and just went back to how I was doing it in the first place.

1.Sometimes I think it wasn't popping open or was taking a bit to do it. Based on another thread, I've started making sure that the part I fold down has two of those little holes in it, so the air can get sucked through those as it pops and create a seal.
2. I think another problem I've had with it popping open is that I need to stay upright and standing for at least a couple minutes after I put it in, and maybe wiggle around a bit to cause it to open. I've had a couple times in the morning where I've cleaned it out, and after I put it back in I just jump back in bed, and then it leaks.
3. The little holes seemed to have just a bit of material hanging off of them and I think sometimes that maybe flapped over the holes. I have now ripped them off.
4. I think that after the first period, I got a little over confident and possibly started angling it more up than straight back when I put it in. So it was possibly just in there sideways.

So, besides one hiccup the other night, this one has gone much much better, hopefully it will continue to do so. Although I am considering also ordering a meluna to try. So we'll see.