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23 December 2012 @ 09:33 am
Hi y'all! I'm a 15-year old girl interested in buying a cup. Unfortunately my mom won't let me (she thinks they're unhygienic and gross. No amount of persuasion on my part will convince her otherwise)... But that's another problem altogether.

So, I'm currently on the rag. My flow is usually pretty light (heaviest days maybe 2 regular tampons in 15 hours or so), but recently I think my cycles have gone whacko because I haven't had my period for 3 months, and now it's super light (can barely fill a light tampon in 8 hours). But now it's gotten heavier again, and I soaked through a regular tampon for the first time ever. Lol, TMI. So, we'll see.

Measured my cervix. I can just touch it with my finger, at about 6.5cm in: does that constitute as medium? And when picking a cup, should the stem be factored in because I could cut part of it off? Someone said to add 10mm to the original length because your cervix often dangles in the cup. And I'll probably need a softer silicone, because I don't exercise enough.

I'd prefer a cup with a large enough capacity that I don't have to empty it more than once a day. Never had sex, so I'd prefer something on the skinnier side too.

So I'm thinking a small Yuuki. I'm assuming a small Fleurcup/Lunette would be too short, and a small Keeper too large? And this is all for the future when I can convince my mom to let me get one... Sigh.
Thank you!
 
Darling Nikkijessiebanana on December 23rd, 2012 03:58 pm (UTC)
I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I say just buy the damn cup. Don't even tell your mom. If you have a job or an allowance just do it. It's your body. My mom didn't want me to wear tampons and I just went about my business. She figured it out, but by then she had to get over it.

You're so young it's perfectly normal to have an irregular flow. I'd get one with better capacity just to be safe. I had a really heavy flow when I first started, dysmenorrhea actually, and I had to go on the pill. It's gotten lighter with age and with the help of the pill.

If you're on your period, when your cervix should be the lowest, I'd say it's about medium. It might sit in your a bit depending on how long of a cup you get.

Looks like a small Cup Lee or Fluercup will give you the most capacity for the diameter and they're both soft cups so they should be comfortable. They aren't the longest cups, but they have decent stems. The S Yuuki and Fleur are comparable in size, but the Fleur has more capacity. Lunette seems to be the most complained about cup on here, if I'm remembering correctly. I'd just pass on it.

*Oh and you seemed to have entered your text in your cut label.*

Edited at 2012-12-23 04:04 pm (UTC)
Darling Nikkijessiebanana on December 23rd, 2012 04:26 pm (UTC)
Oh maybe the Lilycup! It seems narrow, but really long with the stem. It's a new cup though, so you wouldn't have the opinions of other people, but I'm sure if you contacted Melissa she's answer any questions you might have. It might be too long. I don't know.

http://youtu.be/LcRexw246Zo

Bleh it's too early in the morning for me to be on here. I was thinking of Si-Bell not CupLee...which I don't know if they've started making smalls yet and if they have I don't know if their resellers have them yet. It's sort of difficult with that brand if you don't live in Russia.

Edited at 2012-12-23 05:01 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on December 23rd, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
Sorry I didn't see your comment and mentionned the small Cuplee doesn't exist. And no, it's not difficult to get nowadays (it was when I got mine, though), since femininewear.co.uk, Luxury Moon in the UK and another belgian site stock them now.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 23rd, 2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
It's a tough call. Do you respect your mother's objections or do you just go ahead and buy one anyway? Many of us feel that if you're old enough to bleed, you're old enough to decide what product(s) to use. On the other hand, you are still a minor and she is your mother.

In the Community FAQ, there's a thread for convincing parents to let you use a cup. Unfortunately, the linked articles written by doctors contain misinformation and incomplete information. Pity. There seems to be a lot more practical knowledge among us actual cup users here on the list.

The best article comes from our own Melissa at http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cups-still-not-convinced/ And it seems to address her primary concerns about hygiene and "grossness."

Yet another set of guidelines and size and capacity charts to help you decide which cup you think would fit/suit you best. http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/
Darling Nikkijessiebanana on December 23rd, 2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
I'd point out that minors in the US can get birth control without parental permission. In my mind menstrual products are the lesser of the two decisions.

I successfully made it to adulthood making my own choices about menstrual products. I'm a little tired of being PC. I just don't think uninformed squeamish parental opinions matter.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 23rd, 2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
PS - My Gyno had never heard of cups until I played Show and Tell with mine. Now she and her staff think they're wonderful.
mood_swinger23 on December 23rd, 2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
This just made me smile. How great! :)
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on December 23rd, 2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry your mom is not on board. Maybe she would be more okay with cups if she knew that tampons still have a significant risk of toxic shock syndrome (especially in people under 22 or so), whereas cups do not. Since you keep your tampons in for close to the maximum number of hours at a time, a cup might well be a safer option for you. Cups also don't have all the chemicals for absorbency found in tampons. Silicone is a well studied material that has been safely used inside the body (e.g. implants) for quite a while and is not hospitable to bacteria or mold.

My cervix is about the same height as yours, which is average-ish, I think -- good news because it means that most cups will be fine. I don't think you need a super long cup; any of the medium length ones will probably be fine if you bear down to bring the stem closer to the opening (or within gripping distance).

The small FleurCup is popular; it's soft but pops open easily and has good grips. I find its shape more comfortable than the more flared Lunette. I've heard that the Yuuki is pretty stiff, and a number of people have said that the chunky rim of the MoonCup is uncomfortable. I love my small LadyCup best, but it's probably not a good starter cup because it is slippery and lower capacity. Hope this helps!
juliiie87juliiie87 on December 23rd, 2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
Well, I agree with jessiebanana that you should be able to make your own decisions on this, and I personnally feel that I'd have a hard time respecting my parent's opinion if it were just misinformed, which it clearly is, so I'd just go behind her back (the less she knows, the less drama). On the other hand, I'm 25 and free to make my own choices about most things, so you figure out what is best for you.

Compare your measurment with the charts Kuradi8 linked, to me you could go with most cups from the medium to long range, just avoid the shortest ones. Also, there's no need to pick a smaller size (small Meluna, Lunette, Fleurcup, etc.) just for the sake of width : a few mms really don't make much of a difference, and in my opinion your comfort will mostly depend on stiffness and length, to some extent, for easy reach. I disagree with the Yuuki choice, simply because it's one of the firmest cups, which means poential pressure on the bladder (for some people at least) and a hard time folding the rim for a smooth removal, so potential for "ouch!" on the way out. Btw, the small Cuplee doesn't exist, and probably never will, as far as I understand.

The real question at this point is one of practicallity : if you really want a cup and are ready to go behind you mom's back, how will you pay for it ? Do you have some savings, access to a credit card, in the form of a gift card maybe, or an older friend or family member ? Because the reality is, most cups must be purchased online, apart from the american brand, Keeper Mooncup which I don't really recommend at this point, and Divacup, which is canadian but easily available in Wholefoods and such. You could probably go ahead and give the Diva a shot, it's not my favorite rec personnally, but it's 57 mm long without the stem (67 total), has a decent capacity and medium stiffness, overall not too bad. The only drawback is, it's not the cheapest when purchased in real shops, but I guess it's a lot better than No-Cup-Til-You're-18.

Other good choices imo, if you have access to them, would be my beloved large Cuplee (which is no bigger than the small Diva really when you look at the numbers), small Miacup which is very similar, large Meluna soft, small Mamicup, and Natural Mamma for its high capacity. My reasonning is, they're all a decent length, none of them are particularly wide or stiff and they have a good capacity, but then again it doesn't sound like you have an extremely heavy flow, so you should be fine with any.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask more questions ! :)
(Edited for length and clarity.)

Edited at 2012-12-23 08:19 pm (UTC)
thranastasiathranastasia on December 24th, 2012 08:09 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
I'm thinking about a large MeLuna Classic - should I go for the Soft instead? I'm thinking that a small FleurCup would be too short...
I'm gonna write up a huge powerpoint about cups and send it to my mom. Thank you for all your help!
Would a large MeLuna be too wide?
m03m on December 24th, 2012 09:01 pm (UTC)
The small FleurCup won't be too short. It has a stem after all. It also has very good, grippy grip rings that help you remove it.

The Meluna may very well work, too. Keep in mind that most cups will work for most users. So it's not like you have only one chance to get it right.
mood_swinger23 on December 24th, 2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
I think a soft would be best because there's less a chance of causes pressure or discomfort, like the stiffer classic could cause. Most people say width doesn't matter very much, so it should be okay. Have you looked at comparison photos for size?

http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library
Link to the photo library with most brands for comparison

fun picture for comparison:
http://menstrualcup.co/communitypics/picture_comparison_menstrual_cup.jpg

and
Link to stiffness chart: http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/

Zzsomeone on December 25th, 2012 02:02 am (UTC)
The soft MeLunas are hard to get to open, so maybe not the best starter cup. The classic would probably be fine though, and size... well, whatever you think you can fit in there I guess.
juliiie87juliiie87 on December 25th, 2012 12:34 pm (UTC)
I find the large classic to be quite a firm cup, and I'd rather recommend a softer cup for someone who is new at inserting things in their vagina. A softer cup would be easier to fold tightly for insertion and removal (my best friend commented that, because her Naturcup has a firm rim, it's sometimes painful to remove).

I had a large Meluna classic briefly, and passed it along. It had 2 drawbacks on my Cuplee : it was much firmer and the base was wider (more rounded), which, both things combined, made it more difficult to insert a finger next to the cup in order to break the seal for removal. It also made it feel bulkier although it's the same rim diameter !

I don't think there's such a thing as "too wide" within cup range, but softness goes a long way in terms of how it feels. The large Meluna has medium width compared to others, similar to the small Diva, small Miacup, and large Cuplee (so those "large" and "small" labels don't mean much for themselves!). Those last three have a more tappered shape though (more like a V), where the Meluna is more like a U. I would recommend the large soft though, I've very happy with my medium soft, it's extremely comfortable. Just know that it might take a little figuring out until you find out how to have it unfold, but it's nothing that can't be overcome.
thranastasiathranastasia on January 26th, 2013 12:56 pm (UTC)
Thank you all! Everyone was so helpful here, it makes me so happy :-D
I think I'm gonna go with the Large Meluna Soft. The reason I picked that over the Fleurcup Small is because I'm afraid of the Fleurcup riding up over my cervix (plus the Meluna is cheaper!). I have my period again, and I could barely reach my cervix at all: so about 8cm in basically. I don't want to go vaginal spelunking, so I'm going for the stem option too.
Now the next step is calculating how much I spend in disposables each cycle (working on it with a spreadsheet) and convincing my mom... *crosses fingers*
A big thank-you to everyone again!