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03 December 2012 @ 09:54 pm
Hi there,

I am 26, no kids, not a virgin. I had really been looking forward to using the diva cup (I have a size 1), and because I am very comfortable with tampons (I prefer OBs), I wasn't expecting difficulties. But I have tried for several months in a row now, using a couple insertion techniques, and I have not yet had success. My main problem is not one that I've come across in this blog yet.

Basically, I find WEARING the cup (not so much inserting or removing it) painful and uncomfortable. And here's the deal: it feels EXACTLY like a tampon that hasn't been inserted high enough. This actually makes sense to me. I mean, when I wear a tampon, I insert it very far inside with my middle finger, but when I wear the diva cup, the base is always just barely inside and the stem is slightly sticking out. The slight pain and strong discomfort are not from the stem, though: it really feels exactly like the discomfort/pain of a tampon that's too low.

Is there a new insertion trick I can try to make the cup sit higher inside? I don't see how else to avoid the "low-tampon feel." The cup always seems to open right after I let go of the sides inside, so perhaps I'm inserting it wrong and not getting it high enough to start with? Whenever I try to push it inside higher after it's already opened inside, it leaks even more than it does normally.

Other problems: The cup ALWAYS leaks; I have a lot of trouble spinning the cup once it's inside; I don't know whether I've positioned it properly (and have never felt my cervix, so really don't know where I should be putting it); I don't know what folks mean by "suction" or "seal" and don't think I've felt either... not sure what either is supposed to feel like; it hurts and spills when I try to take it out - because the only way I know to take it out without it popping out and hurting is to reach in (which is hard to do) and pinch it into the same closed shape I use to put it in, which therefore pinches blood out.

I had hoped to take this cup on a long backpacking trip to avoid carrying tampons - but I've just about given up hope of ever wearing one.

Can someone advise me any new techniques to get this cup to a higher, more comfortable place? Or do you think the cup is too big/small/hard/soft for my body? Any tips on finding my cervix?

Many thanks, all.
 
It's Not Fair, Laika.itsnotfairlaika on December 4th, 2012 03:24 am (UTC)
Hmm, sounds like it could either be that yes, the Diva is too long for you, or possibly you're inserting it wrong. What fold are you using? Some folds seem to pop open earlier than others which could be contributing to that placed-too-low feeling. I use the punch-down which I think provides a little more wiggle room when it comes to popping open than the C-fold probably does.

For me personally though, even if it pops open early, it usually suctions itself up higher or I can just kegel it into place. I can always tell when it pops open because I can feel it opening and suctioning inside of me (it's kind of a funny feeling but definitely recognizable as suction, I think if you experienced it, you'd know!) So based on what you've said, I think the Diva may just be too long (it is one of the longest cups).
Lorlorrainec on December 4th, 2012 03:31 am (UTC)
It sounds to me as if your Divacup is too long for you. Those are among the longest of the brands. You can compare sizing at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

For now, you could try turning it inside out. That will shorten it, and you can see if it helps at all with the "tampon too low" feeling.

To find your cervix, you need to feel around up there as much as you can. It'll be kind of a low bump, I usually see it described as feeling like the tip of your nose, and there may be a perceptible depression (hole) in the center depending on your body and where you are in your cycle.

Regarding the spillage, I have to pinch mine to get it out as well. What I do is stand over the toilet, and allow the cup to open in my fingers as soon as I get the rim to the vaginal opening, so it can re-catch some of the blood that has been pinched out.

I'm sure someone will be along with some positional advice in a bit. It sounds to me like when you push the cup up after it opens it's bypassing your cervix somewhat. That again suggests to me that a shorter cup might work better for you.
juliiie87juliiie87 on December 4th, 2012 03:38 am (UTC)
The Diva is likely too long for you, heck it's the longest cup there is. But here's the good news : you can flip it inside out like a sock and wear it that way, it will shorten it. Also, as it seems it never rides up inside you, feel free to trim off the stem and see if it works better that way.

As for getting a seal, the only thing you need to check is that the cup completely unfolds, and possibly that your cervix isn't peaking out of the rim, which would make it useless. The way you're removing it sounds perfectly fine to me, you need to at least pinch it to release the seal, otherwise it creates suction and that's uncomfortable / painful.

Your cervix should feel like a coin-sized nub of flesh, a little doughnut with a tiny indent in the middle, a protruding belly button or the tip of your nose. It should definitely stand out and be towards the bottom of your vag, but it might be hiding in a corner or not at the very end. (o) around it is where the cup should go, and as far in as it'll go, unless you happened to be squishing a folded cup down the side of it, which agian, would be useless and possibly uncomfortable. If that's the case, then the solution is to try and let the cup pop open below your cervix, so it has no chance of missing it, and then aim it in whichever direction you find your cervix to be, if it's not straight up in the middle.

Good luck !

Edited at 2012-12-04 03:43 am (UTC)
perigrineperigrine on December 4th, 2012 05:11 am (UTC)
for me to get my cup into the 'can't-feel-it' spot, I find it best to be in the shower, with my right leg up on the side of the bath (shower in bath), insert with the C-fold (fold part to the back and the inner folded part lower than the outer), get it past the bony part and then bring my leg down and do a funny wiggle. Sitting on the loo or otherwise standing just don't get it THERE, you know?

teacupcake89 on December 4th, 2012 10:53 am (UTC)
Yes! I also do a wiggle dance and bend my knees to nudge it into its happy place :)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on December 4th, 2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
I agree with others who have said the Diva is too long for you. Flip it inside out to shorten it and see if it fits you better that way.
ionracasionracas on December 5th, 2012 07:57 am (UTC)
Why do you think it's not the stem? That's exactly what the stem feels like to me. Might be worth trimming it just to see, nothing to lose.