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12 November 2012 @ 03:02 pm
I've used my small Diva for about 3 cycles now. I love/hate it. I have a couple issues with it, and I'm not quite sure how to solve any of them...

1. It makes my cramps worse. My cramps are usually pretty bearable without pains meds. The diva cup makes them really bad.
2. Moving when I stand. I typically insert it sitting. Well, I tried to empty it in the shower and couldn't find the end. I tested it a few times and realized then when I stand it practically goes sideways! But then returns to normal in the sitting position. What the heck?? 
3. Leakage or "fake" leakage. I think my cervix is higher later in my cycle, so the positioning is more difficult. Because I find that I leak around the third day. But, on the first two days I'll be going about my business and all of a sudden get a trickly feeling and run to bathroom, because it feels like a lot of blood has slipped through, only to wipe and find nothing there. So annoying! 

Btw, I'm 20, no kids, virgin. Also, I still haven't gotten used to removal. I think I need a softer cup/narrower rim. 
 
juliiie87juliiie87 on November 12th, 2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
1. If your body decidedly isn't getting used to the cup, you might need a softer cup, indeed. Width doesn't mean much in terms of comfort : I can assure you my oh-so-soft and squishy Cuplee is so comfortable I can't even tell it's there, yet it's 1 mm larger than your Diva (pretty much identical width). Resist the temptation to get yourself the tinyiest cup there is : the Diva is a very long cup, so if the length works for you, you'd probably have a hard time reaching for a tiny short cup.

2. I'm not sure what you mean by sideways. Your vagina slides towards the end of your backnone fyi. As lond as it's not painful and catching blood, you should be good to go !

3. If it's just a few drops, just enough to stain your panties, but not enough for a pad, then your cup is working, it's just the blood that was already hanging down there and that the cup couldn't catch. The feeling you describe sounds like air leaving the cup as it fills up with blood and/or natural discharge that the cup doesn't absorb. To put your mind at ease, you shouldn't normally get real leaks as long as it's a. unfolded b. around your cervix (which kind of goes together, usually) c. not full yet.

Tips for a smooth removal : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPBZz3uJEg

Hold in there, you'll be a pro real soon ! :)
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on November 12th, 2012 11:37 pm (UTC)
Just saying that it's normal for removal to be easier in one position than in another one (especially while standing). I have an EXTREMELY LOW cervix, and even I prefer to sit on the toilet for removal. My mum has a high cervix and after one or two difficult removals in the shower she was ready to give up on cups. i kept on telling her to try it on the toilet, a couple of months later she did and she's been a happy cupper ever since!

Also, I quite enjoy the feeling of normal discharge going down :D you can't do much about that, just use cloth pantyliners maybe? If your flow is even heavy enough for that, you'll learn to tell when it's a real leak and when it's just discharge. It's hard to pinpoint but I guess I usually clench my muscles and wait. two clear episodes within a minute are a sign it's an actual leak. also, if it's blood there will be more of it, I usually (rarely) feel it pool between my labia so to say. If it feels like you're off period, it's not a leak. if you feel as if you were wearing a pad, this may well be a leak.

as for "sideways", maybe your cervix is off-center? if it's high you may also want to help your cup climb up, despite the company's recs. just kegel/nudge it higher.

the diva is actually quite narrow. also, the softness matters more. a wide cup might actually be better (especially if your flow is heavy too), as it won't sit so tightly around your cervix.

edit: a couple more points. it's important to determine whether your leaks (those that do happen) are residual slobber or overflow. a cup can overflow when it's not full, if your cervix sits in the cup. i can't fill any cup by more than 1/3. residual slobber is basically when the blood that got on the vag walls goes down. for residual slobber DON'T reinsert or it'll start all over. but when it's as full as it can be, definitely reinsert:)

Edited at 2012-11-13 01:48 am (UTC)
tonksadora11 on November 13th, 2012 02:31 am (UTC)
Ok. Usually it's about half full when the leaking starts. I definitely think my cervix is just low, especially at the beginning of my period. I'll probably try a softer, shorter cup. Any recommendations?
juliiie87juliiie87 on November 13th, 2012 02:47 am (UTC)
In case of a low cervix sitting inside the cup, the usual rec' is to go with a U or bell-shaped cup, to provide more capacity at the bottom. Examples include large Si-bell, Fleurcup, Mamicup and Meluna (the soft, in your case). Use the charts and pictures linked on the sizecharts page to determine which would suit you best in terms of size and capacity : http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on November 13th, 2012 03:07 am (UTC)
then for now flip your diva inside out to shorten it :) it might not be too stiff but just too long (the most common problem with the diva).
i second Julie's recs. especially the large fleurcup has a very good capacity.
tonksadora11 on November 13th, 2012 04:16 am (UTC)
Thanks so much guys! I think I'm either going to order the small Fleurcup or the medium/soft MeLuna. My flow is pretty normal, a regular tampon lasts me 4-6 hours on my heavier days. So, I don't think I need the large. :)
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on November 13th, 2012 07:51 am (UTC)
you don't really choose brand and THEN choose size. a small of these brands will be as bad as any other small and you'll have to empty it MORE often than your diva.
don't be afraid of the large, i'm a 20+ virgin too and i use wide cups:) although my flow is quite light.
teacupcake89 on November 13th, 2012 10:51 am (UTC)
flip your Divacup inside out to shorten it for now and see if that makes a difference. and how much cup body length and stem you need in a new cup if you have a long vagina.

my cup slants to the left where my cervix is, is this what your cup is doing? completely normal, just make sure you are aiming your cup towards your cervix :)

I really wouldn't advise getting a 'small' fleurcup or any of the other brands smalls/mediums! you want a cup whose rim can sit around your cervix on lower days rather than underneath it (what the 'small/mediums would do). and a round bottomed shape with good capacity even with your cervix taking up some.

Don't be afraid of the slightly wider rim and ignore the size labels! I'm 23 and can use a 'small' Lunette and a 'large' fleurcup for my low cervix/heavier days just fine because it's so soft. :)

In the Diva album you can see the large fleurcup compared to the Divas side by side: http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library
the Melunas in the Diva album are the old styles so look at the si-bell ones for the current ones.
juliiie87juliiie87 on November 13th, 2012 12:28 pm (UTC)
Thirding my colleagues, if you want to improve your overall capacity, don't go below a large Meluna. I love my medium soft, but honestly it is a small cup, significantly smaller than your Diva. The large Meluna has the same rim size as you small Diva (and the length of a Diva flipped inside out), so you see you can't really go by labels. And yeah, the large Fleurcup/Si-bell is the ultimate high capacity cup, very comfortable and easy to use too, at least people here can't stop singing its praise. ;)