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02 November 2012 @ 05:45 pm

Hi y'all!
I've been reading this forum for some time now but I'm still not sure I can find all the answers...or maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention. I just started using a small yuuki cup and I'm not sure I'm doing it right, so I thought I'd ask.
1) I get some leaking on every other attempt, no matter how often I empty the cup and how I fold it when I insert it. I'm pretty sure I can feel it sitting in place but it always leaks a bit anyway. I'm thinking, maybe the small yuuki is just, well, too small? I chose it based on the advice on the site (I'm 24, never had kids, so I thought it would be better to get the smaller size, but I've never had the smallest vag in the world either).
2) As for my cervix, how can I tell if it's actually in the cup? Its position changes depending on how I sit and also throughout the cycle, doesn't it? So should I always insert in the same position or should I be able to do this right some other way?
3) And my last question is, I get some pain when I'm wearing the cup, not like menstrual cramps, more like in the vagina. Could that be because I've been trying so hard to get it right that I hurt myself or is it more likely improper positioning?

I really thought this would be easy because I never had any problems getting to know my body or anything, but I just can't get the hang of it...any thoughts?
Thank you for your wisdom, in advance :)

Current Mood: worriedworried
juliiie87juliiie87 on November 2nd, 2012 07:27 pm (UTC)
Hum, right of the bat, I'd say that the Yuuki is one of the firmest cups there is, so that might just explain part of your discomfort. Other than that, it could also just be a case of misplacement, which would make sense since you're still learning how to use your cup !

1)More important than which fold you use or what posizion you insert in, is to make sure the cup is fully open. Stirr around with your finger and check that it doesn't feel like it's still partially folded. Try different folds that might be more eager to pop open. Try letting go of the cup lower so you don't shove it all the way still folded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6L-POE-b0
And most importantly, remember to relax your muscles, so the cup has room to expand.

2) You might be missing your cervix, which would be another cause of discomfort (more like deep cramping though). That would also e in line with the leaking. The cup needs to be (o) around your cervix, so if it isn't, it's likely that you would be able to feel it peeking out next to the rim. Can you find your cervix without the cup in ? Remember approximately where it is, help the cup unfold below it, and try to aim the rim towards it.

3) Could be any of those, or could be that the up feels too firm for you. I guess it depends on how many tims you've tried, and if it hurt to insert after the first couple times.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask more questions !

Edited at 2012-11-02 07:28 pm (UTC)
zouzouvatko on November 2nd, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I love how everyone is so supportive here...
I can find my cervix alright, since it's pretty prominent and I'd say rather low. I don't think my muscles are particularly firm, even if I know how to control them, so I feel like a stiff cup is more likely to stay open and keep its shape, right? Maybe I'm not putting it high enough?
Also, where can I learn about folds?
juliiie87juliiie87 on November 2nd, 2012 10:33 pm (UTC)
Every fold I know is shown in the video I linked above, my favourite are labia and half diamond facing down/back (because that's where the canal is the smoothest and most flexible). I find they're the easiest to pop open, but you may have good luck with a triangle, origami, C or punch-down fold. If you insert the cup too high before you let go of the fold, you run the risk of squishing it all folded past your cervix on one side, which would be both uncomfortable and useless.

For me, relaxing my muscles is actually a lot like bearing down, similar to emptying your bladder but not quite as strong. As long as it's succesfully open and placed around your cervix, I doubt your Yuuki could lose its shape, no. And even if it did get a little oval rather than round, that would only be to adapt to your anatomy, so no worries there.

There's also a faq post about soft cups popping open that's full of tips for just any cups, if you can browse the tags.
zouzouvatko on November 2nd, 2012 11:57 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I just realized that even though I can find my cervix without the cup, it's quite a bit softer than I thought so I do sometimes miss it and push it to the side when I put the cup in, so that's probably the cause of my problems...
I'll have to wait till next month to really make sure, since my flow is not very heavy any more. That might also be a reason why there's no leaking now.
linsey852linsey852 on November 5th, 2012 01:56 pm (UTC)
To me it sounds like a different cup might be the best option for you. You could try to get Yuuki to work, but to me it sounds like it's just too firm for you. My understanding is that Yuuki is a pretty firm cup, so that might be your problem in terms of feeling it when it's in and feeling pressure on your bowls. Also, if your cervix position is hard to find maybe you should go for a brand that is meant to be lower down inside of your vagina. I've noticed some cups are meant to stay lower than tampons while others are meant to go up around your cervix. So maybe a softer cup (in perhaps a larger size like you mentioned thinking you might need) that is meant to sit lower is the solution. The pain you talked about also sounds like you might need a slightly softer cup too. What about a small lunette or something similar?
juliiie87juliiie87 on November 5th, 2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
... just jumping in to say cups sit wherever they please, despite what the manufacturer says, and that is usually (o) around the cervix, cause that's as far as it can go. The difference in length accounts for how far in the bottom of the cup will end up, which is basically determined by one's vaginal length and cup length.