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31 October 2012 @ 07:55 am
Hello,
After 2 Cycles with a Moon Cup (US) I am ready to try something different.  Here is what I am hoping to find:

I am 35 years old, mother of 2 born vaginally. I have a condition called Lichens Sclerosis which causes the outer skin in the vaginal area to be tight, so I purchased the smaller cup to make sure insertion was OK.  This is coupled with very little sensation vaginally, poor muscle tone and poor bladder control.  Uterus is also tiled.   I don't have a really great sense of my anatomy (i.e. cervix, where are you?), but this has encouraged me to try to figure more out.  In the meantime please give me your best guess at a good fit for me.

I had no problem inserting the cup but removal was somewhat difficult.  The stem was too long and had to be cut down by 1/3 to 1/2 (or else it stuck out), and yet I guess once in the cup either rode up or stuck very firmly.  I needed to bear down/give birth to grab hold of the stem, and then NOT LET GO while taking a breath to do the next set to inch it closer until I could grip the cup enough to squeeze at the bottom.  Either because of my tightness or the cup's firmness or just the fact that it kept trying to escape I really could not get in into a fold, so pulling out was unpleasant...kind of felt like someone popping opne an umbrella in my vaginal entrance.  I am thinking SOFTER would be better for me?  Definitely with a stem, but not necessarily as long as the Moon Cup.  And a higher capacity, if possible to get without going super wide, as I need to change at least every 3 hours at the beginning of cycle.  Also had some random leaking....maybe because I had the smaller instead of the larger size?  And maybe wider is ok if you have a softer cup?  It is only my vaginal entrance that is narrow; there is plenty of room inside so as long as I can get it in and out past opening I should be good. 

I have looked at all of the charts but I find it really overwhelming with so little knowledge and experience. 

PS--Does everyone know that the Moon Cup has a money back guarantee?  It is a nice risk free way to try.

PPS--I felt a little nervous doing so much tugging at my anatomy.  Cup use does not predispose one to prolapse does it?  My pelvic physio has said I am a prime candidate for that........

Thank you so much.  I appreciate your time and knowledge.
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 31st, 2012 03:49 pm (UTC)
Sounds you're doing pretty well already ! What you describe sounds pretty much like the textbook guide to removing your cup with a high cervix / long vagina. Congratulations on your skills !

Oh definitely, softer cups are more comfy for sensitive folks, easier to pinch and fold for insertion AND removal, even with a larger rim diameter ! I think (and the meluna company agrees with me) that they should be more gentle to weak pelvic floor muscles. You won't hurt yoursself permanently with a cup, and I've never heard about prolapse associated with cups, but you should be fine as long as you're being gentle on yourself and careful to break the seal before pulling it out.

If your cup tends to ride high, you would need a cup with a decent length and a good grippy stem to hold on to. Start by having a glance at the stiffness comparison chart : http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/ and pick a convenient length and capacity from these : http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

Depending on your flow, large Fleurcup, Cuplee, small or large Miacup and large Meluna soft seem like a good fit. Your Mooncup has a pretty low capacity, so any of those, even the medium diameter ones such as Cuplee and small Miacup, should be a massive improvement. I can only recommend my super soft Cuplee. Also the tappered shape provides for a more gradual removal, but even with the more bell-shaped cups, you could fold them in half on the way out. You can compare them, your MC and others here : http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library Be careful that the older albums towards the bottom don't have all the recent designs and brands. Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask more questions !
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on October 31st, 2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
If you bought the Moon Cup directly from the company, you MIGHT have a chance at a refund. But don't count on it. Their customer service for refunds has a terrible reputation. You might be better off selling it at mc_sales instead.

I wonder if you'd like a SheCup (from India?) www.ebay.com/itm/251174239734 It's the same length as your Moon Cup but shaped differently.

Serpent: arpiserpent_849 on November 1st, 2012 09:32 pm (UTC)
i'm not sure if i forgot to send my comment or it was deleted. if it's the latter, i'm sorry i missed the part of your post about tightness.

if your cup rides up, try to help it get there. kegel and/or nudge it up so that it didn't stick out. for removal, experiment with various positions like squatting or sitting on the toilet.

when you choose a new cup, compare the photos carefully and choose which stem you prefer. if you're worried about tearing the stem during removal, i recommend a meluna. i have a low cervix and the stem was REALLY difficult to cut off, lol. but really all sorts of long(-stemmed) cups are used successfully by high cervix folks, it's very individual.

as for width: the difference is really very small, especially when the cup is folded. (try the triangle fold for example... should be easier with a soft cup)