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So, I bought a Diva Cup size 1 in 2005 and have used it religiously since then because tampons/pads were contributing to a recurrent UTI. I've never been really "comfortable" with it (though it's SO MUCH BETTER than the alternatives!) in that there's always *something* telling me it's there. It has always leaked in spite of proper installation. I had to cut the stem off entirely to not shred myself when I walk or sit. (It's so stiff on the Y axis that it tilts sideways in spite of how rigid it is otherwise.) I have to take it out to go to the bathroom because of internal pressure, so I end up rubbed sore after 5-7 days of reinserting it every time I go.

I feel like I need a narrow, short cup... but I've filled the Diva 1 to the holes in about 3 hours on really heavy days, so I need one with a higher capacity (at least 20mL, 25 would ease my mind). I also have a laytex allergy and a very long cervix, low cervix. There's really not much room to maneuver in my sugar dish!

So I've studied the size charts pretty extensively to try to figure out if I can actually have a cup that doesn't hurt or make a mess all the time. If I concentrate on capacity, I'm left looking at the new MeLuna (41x48 w/ 20 mL capacity) or the Lunette (41x47 with 25mL capacity). But how 'squishy' are these compared to the Diva Cup 1? I'm fairly certain the rigidity of the Diva cup causes insertion problems and part of the internal pressure that makes it hard to pee, etc. I'm not sure I'd solve my problems with a smaller cup that's just as resistant as the Diva Cup 1. Then too, I live in the U.S., so it'll require mail order, and I'd rather not shell out $40+ for the same darn thing to happen. :(

Has someone used all three of the brands I've talked about here that can tell me which one's the softest and shortest? Do either of them come with the little knob at the bottom so I don't get stabbed if I roll over on my side?

I'm leaning towards the Lunette, in part because of availability, and in part because of the capacity. And, I can still get the green one if I order soon, because the apparent need for anything for women to be marketed in "both girl colors, pink and purple" and "pretty" is a serious pet peeve of mine. I almost ordered the Mooncup when I got my Diva because it's a practical brown color-- which means no staining in addition to not being patronized by the marketing committee-- but then I figured out about the laytex allergy and there went that idea. :/

Sorry for the mini-rant there. Any input appreciated. Thanks everybody!
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teacupcake89 on October 29th, 2012 10:12 am (UTC)
your cup might be tilting towards your cervix, the rim on mine tilts to the left because my cervix is there.

the small lunette is about the same stiffness as your small Diva (4/10), only slightly narrower, so I don't know if that would make much difference.

have you tried flipping your Diva inside out to shorten it to see if that helps?

if you have a low cervix, a wider shorter round bottomed cup like a Large Fleurcup would be able to sit around the cervix rather than under it, and still have a good amount of capacity for your heavier days, 30mls. it's also nice and soft (2/10)

have a look at the photo comparisons here is you haven't seen them already and compare the length of your diva (how long you would like it to be) against other cups, the new style melunas are in the most recent folders. http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library remember you can always trim the stem :)
neumeindilneumeindil on October 30th, 2012 01:51 am (UTC)
My cervix is always just inside my vaginal opening so it makes it into the center of the cup every time. But, if I'm sitting down and lean to one side or the other, I can actually feel the cup slip around based on the pressure on the base. I'm used to it, but it's a little awkward.

I have not tried flipping the Diva inside out, but I will once I take it out in the shower tonight. If it makes it more comfortable for this week alone, it's worth it!

Thanks for the input!
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 29th, 2012 12:07 pm (UTC)
Use the stiffness chart to narrow down your choice : http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/

I'm not so hot on the Lunette for you, if you have a "long cervix" because your cervix sitting inside such a V shaped (tappered at the bottom) cup would mean very little capacity left. Plus, like teacupcake89 said, it's really the same stiffness as your Diva. My advice is : pick something reaaally squishy to help with your "hard-to-pee" issue, but fear not a larger cup, because those will provide extra capacity, and frankly, width don't matter that much as long as it's squishy.

One thing you don't mention is the length available from your entrance til your cervix : you wear a Diva, and that is the longest cup, so you might want to consider something slightly longer than a small Lunette, for added capacity as well. I mean, there's one whole cm difference between those too ! On that note, have you tried flipping the Diva inside out ? That will shorten it to somewhat what a large Meluna would be.

So my recs : large Meluna SOFT, Si-bell & Fleurcup in both sizes depending on capacity (might as well get the large !, fyi there's an offer for 2 sizes Fleurcup at a bargain, their websites ships for 3.99 euros, both brands look very similar but the Si-Bell is even softer) and perhaps the large Cuplee and small Miacup because I just <3 my squishy Cuplee. Those last two are more V-shaped though.

Edited at 2012-10-29 12:26 pm (UTC)
neumeindilneumeindil on October 30th, 2012 01:55 am (UTC)
From entrance to cervix, I can go in up to my knuckle on my index finger (1.5" maybe?), but my fingers aren't long enough to touch the top of my vagina behind it.

I'll flip the Diva inside out tonight and see what that changes. If nothing else, it'll get rid of the rubbing from the rim where the stem used to be, which will help some. I'll also check out that Fleurcup site; the more I look, the better option it appears to be.

Thanks for the input!
michaelaokayprettygood on October 29th, 2012 03:20 pm (UTC)
I haven't tried the Lunette, but I went from the Diva to a Meluna soft and it is MUCH softer and squishier! And I got the ring model, so there is no knot to poke me, and it is soft, easy to grasp, and much more comfortable than the Diva's stem ever was. Really happy with it!
neumeindilneumeindil on October 30th, 2012 01:56 am (UTC)
Good to hear. :) It's on my short list too.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on October 29th, 2012 03:59 pm (UTC)
i agree, get a wide soft cup. use the tips i collected here if you have problems popping open http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html

i'm a virgin but my preferred cup is an "old-style" 45x45 meluna. the width mostly matters for the insertion. if a cup feels too wide it's usually because of the stiffness i think.

also, the small lunette holds about the same as a small diva, the 25ml capacity is to the rim. but i've also heard that its stiffness is the same throughout the cup (well i have one and it's true), compared to the diva which is ranked the same but has a fairly stiff rim (and an uncomfortable hollow stem? a tab stem should definitely be easier to trim). seconding all the recs, i'd also add that a large miacup could be a good option as well...

it might seem like a small difference in stiffness won't help much but my soft melunas and large ladycup are sooo much more comfortable (to insert! doesn't matter otherwise) than my small lunette. and i never even considered it uncomfortable, i even wondered how anything could be even softer than it :D
neumeindilneumeindil on October 30th, 2012 02:44 am (UTC)
Thanks for the input! :) I'm looking forward to something a lot softer than the Diva.
OmniAliaomnialia on October 30th, 2012 01:26 pm (UTC)
I also have a low low cervix, and started with a lunette large for heavy flow... while it worked perfectly, the pressure was very uncomfortable for me postpartum....

I recently got a meluna soft cup, and it is absolutely PERFECT. I haven't had a single leak, and it is so soft i can't even feel it! I didn't even get cramps using it!! The capacity of the meluna IS a tiny bit less than the lunette, but I find for me personally, the comfort is worth it... I no longer dread changing and re-inserting the cup. :) Only takes a sec!
hairballsplat: vulvahairballsplat on October 31st, 2012 07:00 pm (UTC)
My cervix is about 2 inches in and lower some days. I have a relatively heavy flow (180-240 ml per period.) I have tried L Diva, L LadyCup, S LadyCup, M (old style) Meluna, L Lunette, L Fleur and L Yuuki (all stems totally cut off.) My absolute favorites are my LadyCups because they are so squishy. I use the Lg Fleur for my really heavy days and the bottom of the cup is RIGHT at the entrance to my vagina...not the most comfy, but I need the capacity. My cervix sits inside my cups. Lunette is my least favorite because it's so stiff.
My order of squishiness:
stiff to squishy:
L Lunette
L Yuuki
M MeLuna
L Diva
L Fleur
L LadyCup
S LadyCup

Sorry I can't compare to the small Diva or new MeLuna. Hope this helps some.
okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on November 2nd, 2012 01:01 am (UTC)
Just throwing this out there, a large Fleurcup has excellent capacity. I personally do not find the stem hurtful at all... of course other people might be bothered by it, but I never have been physically irritated because of it. I am not bothered by it AT ALL when it is inside of me.

I have both a small and large Fleurcup. I mostly use my small, but I have used the large several times, and I love them both... comfy, easy for me to insert/remove, and I've trimmed the stem of my small accordingly (it stuck/sticks out a tad which is annoying but doesn't actually irritate me), until it's where I like it. I don't want it completely gone, as I do need it, but the length of the stem was too long for me personally. I don't think I've trimmed my large Fleurcups stem and I don't think I intend to.

Edited at 2012-11-02 01:03 am (UTC)