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26 October 2012 @ 05:05 pm
Hey guys,

I have been using my Lunette for two periods now. It's great for the most part, but I have to say that it leaks a little at night. It also has trouble popping open when taking it out. 

I've been doing research on this, and I found out that apparently, firmer cups pop open better. 

Has anyone had experience using both a small Lunette and a small Yuuki? How would you say they compare?

And for virgins, are firm cups still okay and comfortable?
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clover_elf_kinclover_elf_kin on October 26th, 2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
I use a regular DivaCup, which is one of the larger and firmer ones; being a virgin meant I had to stretch myself out first to even get the cup IN. However, once I'd had a cycle or so to adjust, it worked just fine--at least, it works when I've actually started bleeding. When I'm just spotting or think I should put a cup in just in case, then my smaller, softer cup (I think it's a small MeLuna?) works better.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on October 26th, 2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
actually the diva is considered to have a medium stiffness just like the small lunette. i've heard the rim is stiffer though. it's certainly one of the largest cups, although the length doesn't matter much here. a short wide cup isn't easier to insert than a long wide cup.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on October 26th, 2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
um what exactly do you mean by popping open? it's normally used about the cup opening into its normal shape when you insert it. you fold it and let it open. sounds like you don't have problems with this.
do you have problems breaking the seal? does the cup sometimes seem to be stuck? read the posts here about removal. it can be difficult to learn with all sorts of cups. have a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPBZz3uJEg if you are still learning, a stiff cup can pop open painfully and suddenly.

if your cup leaks only at night, most likely it just doesn't have enough capacity. the yuuki won't help in this case.you need something longer and perhaps also wider.

i recommend practising insertion/removal a bit more, so that you knew what features you need in a new cup. length, grip rings, what sort of stem etc. basically, experiment. many prefer to remove (and reinsert) cups on the toilet, but some need to squat or stand.
teacupcake89 on October 27th, 2012 01:52 pm (UTC)
what do you mean by 'popping open when taking it out'?

here's a great post by serpent on getting cups to pop open after insertion, great tips in the post and comments: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#comments

if you mean you struggle to release the seal for removal, then you need to either rock the cup side to side whilst pulling it low enough to squeeze the base, or you can press one side of the rim inwards to allow air in.

Try to partially fold the cup for removal (in a sort of c or punchdown shape, or 'hot dog in a bun, your finger the hot dog with the cup folded around in a c fold ish) this will make removal more comfortable.

virgins certainly can use stiffer cups, but stiffer cups are more likely to press on the bladder than medium-soft cups. leaking at night is likely to be because you need a higher capacity cup for night time. a soft, slightly wider cup like a large fleurcup could be a good option.

get to know your small lunette first with a couple more cycles using the tips here and in Serpent's comments! :)
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 27th, 2012 05:10 pm (UTC)
"stiffer cups are more likely to press on the bladder"

This, and also you may find them harder (literally) to hold tightly folded fo insertion and especially removal. I find it easier to break the seal on my (very soft) Cuplee and Meluna soft than on a (firmer) Meluna classic, for example. It is true, however, that some users find firmer cups easier to pop open, which means that there is less technique refinement and manipulation needed to have the cup unfold. Those who started with softer cups and managed to make them unfold (like me), don't view it as a serious concern. Practice makes perfect !

There is no proof that firmer cups will hold their sea better at night, in fact there is a theory that they may move along with your body more if you're tossing and turning in bed.
tauriskatauriska on October 29th, 2012 12:18 pm (UTC)
Hi :) I have a small Lunette and a small Yuuki, Lunette as my favorite one and Yuuki more as a backup. As of my personal experience, they are very similar, really comfortable (I don't feel them at all). Yuuki pops open better because of its very firm rim, and for me it also has a stronger suction, so the removal is not as super quick and easy as with Lunette - but I never had any leaks with Lunette either...
womaness on October 29th, 2012 07:04 pm (UTC)
Oh my goodness I feel like such a dork.

How do you tell if you need a softer or firmer cup? I'm definitely going to keep my Lunette, but I just want to know for future reference.

If you are a virgin, but need larger capacity, would it be good to get a large size softer cup so that it would be comfortable but provide you with the capacity you need?
I know that a lot of larger sized cups are very firm, and not recommended for virgins, but I know that there are some larger cups such as Cup Lee MeLuna, and LadyCup that are pretty soft.

Edited at 2012-10-29 07:10 pm (UTC)
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on October 30th, 2012 12:08 am (UTC)
it's mostly a matter of comfort and experimenting. if your cup only leaks at night, chances are it's just the capacity and you don't have any special needs. but the gut feeling is often right. if you are sure, it won't hurt to try a stiff cup either (but don't go for a similar-sized stiff cup).

yes, these cups are pretty soft, and so are the large fleurcup and miacup. the large ladycup has the same capacity as your small lunette.
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 30th, 2012 11:47 am (UTC)
And yes, virgins can totally use large, soft cups. Use the charts to determine which one would have enough capacity to really make a difference from your Lunette :