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Jessie Clark
17 October 2012 @ 12:30 pm
I finished my first period using my large Lunette a few days ago, and I have a couple questions.

I guess I should start by saying to judge by some stories I read, I had an amazingly trouble-free first run.  No leaks to speak of, no insertion issues, no discomfort while wearing or weirdness or major disasters.  It's crazily much better than pads. (I've never been able to use tampons, they dry me out and itch like mad.)  I think I'm no longer going to look forward to my period with quite the level of loathing I used to.  Thank you SO MUCH for all your question-answering and information-providing!

My biggest question is, I suppose, a sizing question.  I really like how easily the Lunette opens and how easily it inserts and the no-leakyness, but removal isn't always quite as feeling-less.  Apparently, I'm much tighter right at the outside edge, especially towards the end of my period.  When I remove it, there's resistance at that lip and it's not so much painful as mildly uncomfortable.  But because it's the only even slightly uncomfortable part of it I wanted to ask, would a size-change be a logical thing to try?  How likely is it a smaller cup would leak?  (I'm above the "we recommend a larger size" age on every chart I've looked at.)  The size-jump between large and small Lunettes seems pretty extreme: if I wind up with a smaller one, would sticking with the Lunette shape be more logical (because I've had such good luck with it so far) or making a more-moderate size jump? 

I did manage to get blood on the outside of the cup and fingers once, and decided to just put a pad in while I cleaned the cup.  (The above removal question may have had a minor impact on this decision too.  It was almost at the end and it was just kinda like ... "meh, do I really want to have to remove it again when it's probably going to only be one pad's worth anyway?")   Almost immediately, I started cramping mildly.  Until then, it hadn't really hit me that I hadn't cramped at all with the cup.  Is this a known phenomenon?  Was it all in my head?  Maybe it explains some of my aversion to tampons too?

Thanks again for all the invaluable information!

*Edit*  I didn't realize there was such a softness difference between the Lunettes.  :S  Add another complication to my calculations. lol
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juliiie87juliiie87 on October 17th, 2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
Congratulations on your successful transition !

About removal : I see two main reasons for discomfort : lack of lubrication and the fact the the large Lunette is a fairly large, stiff cup. Try putting a dab of lube where the discomfort is next time you need to remove, or try to partially refold your cup, instead of having the whole rim come at once. I sometimes refold in a partia c-fold, using my longest finger to press against the cup and squish it in half, and the tip of my thumb to bring both edges together and fold it again. Or I just remove slowly, pinching and letting one edge come out at a time, at an angle. I definitely think you can work on your technique to make removal more comfortable

About sizing : small Lunette would be softer so that's good for comfort, but it would also hold significantly less... Fyi there are several brands with a similar V shape and a decent capacity for a slightly narrower rim : large Cuplee and small Miacup are just two. Compare them here : http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/
Jessie ClarkJessie Clark on October 17th, 2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
I hadn't really thought about the stiffness. Hmph. Time for more internet digging!

I love that size chart. I've also got http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/t226-lunette-comparison-photos (the Lunette Comparaison Photos page) and a "softness comparison" post from this group up bouncing between the three. It's a little information overload! lol

It looks like a LunetteS is narrow, soft and short, a Mooncup is narrow, long and hard, a DivacupS is medium, long and soft and a DivaL is wide as a LunetteL but longer (in the body: the stem seems short) and softer. Hm.

I may ponder another month and try lube and folding and see what happens. Maybe one of the Divas would be better than the small Lunette. Thank you muchly for your comment!

Edited at 2012-10-17 06:57 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 17th, 2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
This -> http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/ and the size charts <3 is all I need... ;) The pictures are good too, but check out the more recent albums at the top : http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library

It is a lot of information ! I think what matters most is a convenient length, based on how your Lunette fits, a decent capacity based on how fast it fills up, and just a softer rim, which is easy since the Lunette is fairly firm. For example, the Diva is a little bit longer than your Lunette, with a shorter stem. It's also a good idea to give your first cup some time ! And you're welcome. ;)

Oh, and I meant to say, about the cup lessening your cramps... well, it's not based off science or anything, but you're definitely not the first to reports this ! Most people chalk it up to the harmful chemicals found in pads and tampons... others think it's something about the cup being there. Anyhow, cups are amazing ! :D

Edited at 2012-10-17 07:22 pm (UTC)
Jessie Clark: pic#118135263Jessie Clark on October 17th, 2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
Hehe. I know the pictures aren't top priority. I just like looking at them. It's like ... "each one of these pretty little things is capable of freeing a unique size and shape of person from nasty disposable mess." Or something. And the shapes are neat. Or ... I could just be crazy. lol
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on October 17th, 2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
Don't rush out and buy another cup yet. Get through the dreaded learning curve first and really get to know your cup -- what you like and don't like about it -- so you can make a more educated decision about your next one. Maybe this will turn out to be just fine after all despite the ouchy removal issue you're having. Maybe you'll decide that your other cup could be a lower capacity light-days cup. Give it a few cycles before you spend more money. Maybe you won't have to???
teacupcake89 on October 17th, 2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
Since this is only your first period with your Lunette I would strongly suggest that you give it another 2-3 cycles before deciding if the cup isn't right for you. If only, that even if you buy another cup today you'll still have to get through the learning curve! :)

Getting the right technique down that works for you takes time and practice, don't worry everyone experiences this in some form or another until they get through the learning curve. :) Seeing as the cup doesn't hurt/press uncomfortably on your bladder during use (which would happen if it was too stiff or wide) I think it's just a matter of practice and technique!(which can be overcome!) :)

For removal: I suggest putting some lube on yourself to make things more lubricated (great for insertion too!) are you partially refolding the cup when you remove it? if not, that's most likely the reason for the discomfort. Try to remove one corner diagonally first then the rest so it doesn't come out all at once.

Most cup users are tighter at the entrance, it's all a matter of relaxing the vaginal/pelvic floor muscles for insertion and removal. Try to bear down hard during removal. Taking deep slow breaths and taking your time can also help with any discomfort. :)

In terms of mess during removal: preparation is the key! :) Get a wad of toilet paper ready to put against yourself as soon as the cup is out, some down the toilet so it will flush in one go and another wad for wiping the cup/fingers with if you don't have access to a sink/bottled water. Then once the cup is out you don't have to faff around trying to pull toilet paper off the roll whilst holding the cup. :)

hope this helps! :)