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I tried the cup for the first time yesterday- my traumatic dry run.I found this community today and wanted to share my woes. This post has a lot of yucky descriptions, so stay away if you'd be grossed out. 

I am married, no kids yet. And I think I have a really high cervix (during and after my periods, it's perennially high I could never reach it with a finger) .I have tight vaginal walls that it sometimes pains during intercourse too. So I ordered a Lunette Selene Small as I found it is the perfect balance between narrowness and good length.  

I tried it first  with 7 fold as it presented the smallest mouth, but the base of the fold is huge and so it wouldn't go in beyond the tip. So again I experimented with 7 fold, punch down and lots of lubricant. The lubricant was so slippery that the cup kept slipping out of my grip. Then when I finally managed to push in 80% of the cup, I kind of let it go and it popped open out of my vagina! Almost like my vagina burped the cup out. This happened over and over I was seriously tired. 
Then for some strange reason, I turned the cup inside out! and then I tried the c fold, and somehow this time it went in, I could slowly twist it in, and after an eternity the cup went in! I thought the soft inside area of the cup works better for me. 
I didn't hear a popping sound (no feeling of pop either) but I could feel the base of the cup and it was fairly circular. It was a  dry run, I was elated and walked around for 10 minutes- I barely felt it and I was happy. 

But the removal!!! I put my finger in and the cup had ascended inside, my finger could not even reach it!! I squatted and was bearing down so much but the moment I stopped bearing down to normally breathe, it would again ascend, and I've had to start all over again. After a long struggle, I finally pushed and pushed like giving birth, with one finger inside and guess what: I suddenly peed all over my fingers. Yuckkkkk. Has this happened to anyone at all??? After giving birth to my cup I realised what a big mistake it was to turn it inward and lose the stem. I think I really need the stem. But most of all I need confidence and support now. It was 1.5 hours yesterday. Please tell me it gets better. 
Current Mood: anxiousanxious
Jenjennifer0246 on October 11th, 2012 03:06 am (UTC)
it gets better :)
Tess: Me as of January 2012gryphonwing on October 11th, 2012 03:21 am (UTC)
It gets lots better! It's honestly easier when it's not a dry run. Lube helps with insertion, and there's more wetness in the region when you're bleeding. :) And your body will get used to this, which will help with the tensing up before the cup goes in.

I'm another high-cervix person. My Diva never gets unreachable, but it can go pretty far up. For your next attempt, you might consider removing your cup in the shower - whether it's during your period or not, just in case you have another bladder-gets-involved moment. If you squat and bear down it should take *far* less effort to get the cup into a reachable place - body position really, really matters. If I squat and bear down I can actually shoot the thing right out of my body if I want to. :D

As for urine - well, bearing down uses a lot of muscles, and your cup presses against the urethra a bit from the inside, and it sounds like something just triggered a bit of a spasm there. I know it's unpleasant, but it's not something that's likely to happen frequently. You might make sure you empty your bladder before your next removal attempt, just for peace of mind. :)

It really, really does get better. My own learning curve wasn't overly steep but DAMN did I get blood everywhere when I removed the cup for a while there. I just change it in the shower now so I don't have to worry about spilling. :)
Prickle Bitch: batty!!meig on October 11th, 2012 04:30 am (UTC)
I pee on my hand all the time when I remove my cup, especially in the morning. It's pee, it's mostly sterile, it washes off. It will get better.
juliiie87juliiie87 on October 11th, 2012 10:28 am (UTC)
You're definitely not the first one to report this kind of first experience and according to everyone here, yes, it does get much better. And yeah, the cup doing yo-yo thing is common at first too. People usually find it easier on their periods, as well. A few words of advice :

- As you've found out, turning the cup inside out only really works for people with a short vagina / low cervix. The small Lunette is a rather short cup to begin with. That being said, many people with a high cervix can use it thanks to its long stem. So if the stem is still there, you'll be fine ! If not... you'll definitely get better at bearing down, it's a skill like any other.

- Lube is a good idea, but preferably on yourself, not on the cup ! So it's not as slippery.

- Insertion : How "tight" you are is mostly a function of your muscles, so you need to relax them for insertion, as well as for removal. Keeping loose is a bit like bearing down I find, just not as intense. Position can also change how tight you feel : for me lying down comes first, sitting on the toilet second, in terms of ease of insertion. How relaxed and loose your vag feels also greatly influences how easily the cup can spring open. It needs room/air to do so. Angle might also be your problem : aim horizontally towards your back, not up. And check with a clean, lubed up finger : you might be hitting your pubic bone. And you might want to experiment with various folds, face them one way or the other, etc.

Don't worry, you'll get there sooner than you think !
vltavskavltavska on October 11th, 2012 11:31 am (UTC)
Totally with the pee, just go to the bathroom first and that way your bladder will be empty and you'll be good to go :)
chk86 on October 17th, 2012 11:11 am (UTC)
Dear all,

thankyou so much for your encouraging replies!! I was actually put off for a week, but reading all your replies over and over again sort of encouraged me to try it one more time. I just finished my second attempt, dry run again, and I got my cup in less than 10 minutes!! This time the 7 fold worked for me!! I didn't hear a pop sound and when I put my finger in I realized it hadn't opened yet. I toyed around with the stem for a while . I didn't hear any popping sound, but when i yanked at the stem again it kinda felt tight, so im guessing there is a suction probably. Also when I first put it in I could totally feel the cup, but now I can barely feel it, so is there something like you don't feel the cup at all only when a suction has been formed? Is 'Feeling' the cup an easy way to determine if it has opened or not?
@Juliiiie87:Thanks for those tips, this time I put lube on myself, first put a finger, then two sort of tried understanding the angle and then let the cup in. And I did it in a standing position with one leg on the toilet seat!
@Meig: After reading your post I don't feel grossed out as much!
Im typing this with the cup inside me, im going to wander around for half an hour or so and then try removing it! Will let you all know :)
chk86 on October 17th, 2012 11:22 am (UTC)
yayyyy!!! I could pull the cup out in about 3 minutes!!!

@gryphonwing:The stem was there, and like you said I could bear down and the base of the cup became accessible, I could squeeze it with two fingers, I wasn't really successful in breaking the suction, but it wasn't all that bad!
@vltavska: Yes I emptied my bladder before all this!!

I'm quite happy with this dry run! Although im only worried how to take out the cup without spilling the blood. My periods are due next week, and im going to do it in the shower cabin. thanks all for the support!
Therese: wind turbinetypical_girl on May 16th, 2013 12:18 am (UTC)
Glad I'm not the only one
This is my first cycle and first time I took it out, I DEFINITELY peed all over my hand. Next time, will tinkle first, then remove. Thanks for sharing that - I feel much better now.

Edited at 2013-05-16 02:46 am (UTC)