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30 September 2012 @ 07:09 am
I am trying a cup for the first time, and I am having issues!  I know that there is a learning curve, and I really want to make it work.  But I think I have the wrong cup, or it could be user error.

I have a large lunette, as I am 38 with one child and my flow can be fairly heavy.  (I am interested in using the cup because it is always such a awful mess every damn month!)  But I am having trouble inserting it.  I tried different folds (c fold, punch down, oragami fold, seven fold) and I think I finally see where it is supposed to get to.  (Past the pelvic bone and in the vagina.)  But it keeps popping open before I can get it all in the vagina.  Also, the cup hurts after it has been in there a while.  When I check it, I find that it has collapsed in on itself so it is flat.  It also sits really low, I can feel the cup at my labia, which just does not seem right to me. 

I think I am either not getting it in high enough, or the cup I have is too big?  Any thoughts?

(Oh, and my learning curve will probably be longer, as I work full time and have a toddler.  I do not get much time to myself in the bathroom!)
lizsterineglizsterineg on September 30th, 2012 12:12 pm (UTC)
I'll try an explain how I keep my cup closed until I want it to open. I use and extreme 7 fold. I fold my cup down with two hands and hold it folding in my right, then I place my left index and middle finger on my labia and insert the cup between my fingers. I then scissor my fingers down on the cup to help keep it closed as it goes in. Once in, I can release my "scissor" hold and coax the cup open. Depending on the fold you use, a method like this may help your cup from prematurely opening.

As for it squishing back down once inserted, that sounds like it didn't *really* fully open. To open my cup I slide a finger beside the cup to allow air to rush into the cup through one of the holes. If I don't let enough in, my cup collapses too.

And as for the cup pushing down on your labia....that sounds like it might be too long. Mine kinda does that on my heaviest days as my cervix drops quite a bit, pushing down on it. Try and feel where your cervix is to see if it is low. It also could be it's just not quite inserted properly and isn't really sitting correctly yet. I'd say give it a few more goes before you can determine it isn't your cup.

Hope that helps. Keep trying and when you get the time, read some more posts on this forum to get other ideas of what to try and see what works for you. It's all about trial and error at this stage until you fine your technique.

Edited to add: I use a Large LadyCup and Small Lunette

Edited at 2012-09-30 12:13 pm (UTC)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on September 30th, 2012 01:31 pm (UTC)
Not having much time or privacy is fighting you. Don't rush. Ignore the outside world for those few moments. Stay focused on the task at hand.

For insertion, want to try my method?
Insert your cup so the rim is just beyond your pubic bone and allow it to open fully there. If you have trouble getting the cup to open, re-insert it with the folded part facing the other way. Up instead of down, or left instead of right (etc.) Create an air channel on the soft back side of your vagina to help the cup fill with air as it opens. Then once it's fully open, give the cup a boost as you kegel it up and into place.

I think yours hurts because it's not fully open and it's creating suction.

It's not unusual to feel the tab stem. Mine is fully intact and I like it as an "anchor" but others lop theirs off. Just be absolutely sure that you want to do so because you can't put any back. And yes, some days any cup will sit lower than others.

Hang in there, you're ALMOST through the dreaded learning curve. You just need to work out a few fine details and learn to trust the cup. :o)

(Edited for a typo that bugged me.)

Edited at 2012-09-30 01:32 pm (UTC)
twogreatdanes on September 30th, 2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
Thank you, ladies! Flipping the cup upside down while inserting it did the trick. I used the punch down fold, and insert it with the punched-in side facing down. I do seem to have more control opening it. I also do check to make sure it is open all the way before pushing it further in. I found I have to twist it to make sure it seals, otherwise it slides out.

It really does feel like there is nothing there. It is so weird! I now understand about what you meant about trusting the cup! Thanks again!
lizsterineglizsterineg on October 1st, 2012 10:33 am (UTC)
Yey! Great to here it's working for you :)