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29 September 2012 @ 09:13 am
Hello everyone! 

It has been a while since i last posted but I have to first start off by saying that I love my lunette!!! This is my third cycle with it and I still love it. However these past two cycles I've noticed something different compared to the first cycle.  I can insert the cup easily but I've been getting bad cramps whenever I use the cup. So bad that I bloat and they don't feel like normal period cramps. They go away after a while but then the cup is extremely difficult to break the seal. It seems on my first use of every cycle the cup comes out and suction breaks easily. But any other time it's very difficult to break it. Could I be putting it in too ugh? What could be causing the cramps? 

Any advice is much appreciated! 


okay so after using cup today I've noticed 2 things: 1. The cup goes in easily but cramps when first in. Cramps vanish after about 5 or 10 minutes. 
2. Removal: sometimes I can break the seal the first time, but most times it seems that it truly is suctioned around something and it takes a lot of force to break the seal before I feel that "whoosh" of air. 
So my question is: I CANNOT reach my cervix still. So what could the cup be suctioned to that makes it so hard to break the seal? How can I stop cramps? 

It's only my third cycle with the cup, but I'm concerned since my first cycle went so smoothly. Now it seems the last two cycles are just so difficult. I love my Lunette, so I don't think it's the cup. But any advice? Insertion techniques to guarantee air? I use the punch down fold already. 

Im not giving up though!!! Maybe I'm just having off cycles. 
Current Mood: curiouscurious
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 29th, 2012 01:54 pm (UTC)
I don't think YOU are responsible for how high the cup decides to sit - this depends mostly on where your cervix sits on that given day, and it can change over time and over a single period as well. So that might be part of what you're experiencing.

Cups can cause cramps sometimes if they aren't properly unfolded/positionned all the way around the cervix, and put pressure on it in some way. You can try to rule this out by checking around the cup with your finger. Finally, I don't think it could cause bloating. Something else changed in your life, diet, medication, stress, etc. ? And do you know why it's more difficult to break the seal ? Is it because of where it sits, or something else ?

Like I said in a recent post, I don't bother with the pinch and pull method for removal as I find it creates too much suction with my cups. I prefer to release the seal by inserting one finger along side the cup. Have you tried this ?
daniellebee88daniellebee88 on September 29th, 2012 02:01 pm (UTC)
My cup is definitely open. I always make sure with a finger. I have been inserting it a little more straight up than back I think. There aren't any leaks though. My cervix has always sat high but the Lunette hasn't given me issues before. It comes out easily and breaks suction easily the first use but anytime after that its like I have to spelunk 2 or 3 times before breaking the seal. I do use a finger to break the suction! It's my favorite method of breaking suction.

My biggest concern is the cramping. Some times it goes away other times not so much. And I started working full time as a teacher, but no major changes in cycle or diet
daniellebee88daniellebee88 on September 29th, 2012 02:03 pm (UTC)
And it just seems the cup won't "give" during breaking as if the holes are being blocked by something. It's still in the spot but I have trouble getting that "whoosh" of air
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 29th, 2012 02:22 pm (UTC)
Hum, I guess the holes could be clogged...
Could it be that the cup suctions right onto your cervix, causing the cramps ? I'm not sure how to prevent this in practice, but in theory, you want to allow plenty of air inside the cup, preferably whooshing over the rim, thanks to your finger, for removal AND insertion both, so there's no suction.

Edited to add link : http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html

Edited at 2012-09-29 03:33 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 29th, 2012 02:12 pm (UTC)
Yep, if it's open and catching blood, it should be in right ! Although the best would be to aim for your cervix and if you can, check around the cup that it doesn't peek out.

All I can suggest for removal is to bear down, which I hear is a skill one gets better at over time. Squatting (best in the shower or tub!) should also bring the cup closer.

I think I remember you were getting married soon, and I'm thinking hbc could be a factor with bloating but tother than that, idk.
daniellebee88daniellebee88 on September 29th, 2012 03:21 pm (UTC)
Removal is easy usually just except for the suction lately. I can grab the stem no problem and get a finger up to the rim but when I push in it feels like it doesn't give or it's hitting something that won't let it break the seal
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 29th, 2012 03:32 pm (UTC)
Very pragmatically, that something in the way could be your cervix, especially if it's "dangly"... This is what I was trying to say in the above comment : http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html
daniellebee88daniellebee88 on September 29th, 2012 04:06 pm (UTC)
If I feel this bubbly sensation is that air getting into the cup? Cause once I put the cup in like I did a few minutes ago, I get this bubbly sensation down there like air or something.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 29th, 2012 05:54 pm (UTC)
What I meant (and maybe so do you?) was during insertion and removal, to let air in as you let the cup unfold. I often get a bubbly feeling as I'm wearing my cup, and I think that's air leaving the cup (and my vag) as it fills up with blood.

(Edited for typos.)

Edited at 2012-09-29 05:55 pm (UTC)
daniellebee88daniellebee88 on September 29th, 2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
Oh okay. So how do you allow air in when inserting? I can always get air in when I break the seal but insertion is different. I don't have cramps right now with the cup in but did at first, but its going in like a charm!
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 29th, 2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
Hum, I'm not sure since my cups usually don't pop open on their own, apart from when I'm lying on my back and well, in this position I can tell air gets in there. Kuradi8 always advises to "create an air channel on the soft back wall of the vagina", using your finger to push away the wall an allow air in.
daniellebee88daniellebee88 on September 29th, 2012 06:59 pm (UTC)
Okay...I'm still a little confused but I assume since its not hurting its working....I'm just a little lost on the whole "create an air channel" I use the punch down fold and it goes in just fine and opens once inside on its own