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22 September 2012 @ 03:47 pm
I'm on my first cycle with a cup - using a Meluna classic L.  It filled up too quickly (2 - 3 hrs) and leaked the first two days which might be solved with a Meluna XL.  I really must be able to make it through a 3-hour class without making a bathroom stop - which is why I looked into cups in the first place.

But the other problem leads me to question whether to go with a bigger Meluna or another lg-capacity cup (Yukki?).  I'm experiencing what others have referred to as "burps" or "vj farts".  While the feeling is odd, I could live with it except that it's accompanied by some spotting and the feeling of leakage and I'd really rather not have to rely on pads for back-up.  Interestingly, the burps don't seem to happen as much or at all when my flow is heavy or the cup is mostly full.

I'm wondering if the fact that Meluna only has 2 air holes might contribute to the burping/spotting. Would a different cup with more/bigger holes (or more holes in the Meluna) help?  I also read about people letting the air out as they put the cup in.  Do you think that would help?  Are there other burping remedies?

I love the Meluna otherwise.  It goes in easily and pops open.  I can't twist it at all but it feels snug.  It's not too long - I even have to push a big to grab the ball.  I can feel the suction as I pull it out but nothing too uncomfortable.  

foggyimagefoggyimage on September 23rd, 2012 01:58 am (UTC)
I get these "burps" as well. Usually I get them with my Diva (which has small holes as you pointed out) and not with my ladycup which has giant slanted holes. The burps (which I call air bubbles) always make me worry that I'm leaking but it never actually leaks lol. I am not sure about the "cup being full" part because I have a pretty light flow most days so this doesn't really affect me.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 23rd, 2012 11:24 am (UTC)
The "burps" or air bubbles happen because, as the cup fills up with blood, air is displaced from it and out your vag. Now, if the spotting only happens in the first hour or so, it could be just old blood already sitting below the rim making its way out with every burp. This is normal, and should be taken care off by wearing dark underwear or a thin pantyliner. You could be loosing your seal, but that's unlikely if you aren't getting much leakage. Just make sure you unclog the holes whenever you empty. The large Yuuki is a very firm cup, another favorite choice for a heavy flow is the large Fleurcup (and XL Meluna).
sulinda on September 23rd, 2012 11:59 am (UTC)
I'm pretty certain it's not old blood because it doesn't happen right away - it's off and on over the course of several hours. Wouldn't more holes give more room for the air to get out? Do Yuuki and Fleurcup have more/bigger holes?
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 23rd, 2012 12:28 pm (UTC)
Most other brands typically have 4 holes, yes, although I'm not entirely sure that's the issue. And I can't tell for sure if they are bigger, have a look here : http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/t224-meluna-comparison-photos
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on September 23rd, 2012 12:19 pm (UTC)
If it's full, it's full! There are many capacity charts at the Community FAQ and another at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

If you want to try enlarging or adding holes, the holes in my large Lunette are about 1.5mm or 1/16" or appx a 13g piercing tool.
wiesoauchimmer on September 23rd, 2012 01:46 pm (UTC)
i know you said you don't want to rely on pads for backup, but have you considered using cloth liners for any light spotting that might occur?

for the burping: i get that too, and i've used various cups in the last years, including cups with many large holes (lady cup) and few small holes (meluna). although the burping feels a lot like leakage (because the air going down feels similar to the tickling of blood running out, but with time you'll learn to distinguish the feeling of the two), it doesn't leak for me.

i always get a little spotting on my heavier days, mostly because i have to empty the cup every few hours and can't get rid of *all* the residual slobber that builds up while the cup is out, but it's nothing that either a cloth liner or dark underwear couldn't handle.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 23rd, 2012 02:30 pm (UTC)
This, and also don't forget, OP, that cups don't absorb and don't prevent the body from cleaning itself with natural fluids, hence why you may find *something* at the bottom of your underwear still. Cloth pantyliners rock, but boy are they addictive ! ;)
sulinda on September 23rd, 2012 09:46 pm (UTC)
Thanks, everyone, for the advice. I'll look into the cloth pads, although I dream of not having to use anything :). I've ordered a Fleurcup to hopefully address the capacity issues and will see if it larger number of holes changes the amount of burping/spotting. Maybe, too, I'll find that it's more a matter of getting used to the bubbling feeling and feeling confident that if there is any spotting it's not enough to have to stop at the restroom.

I appreciate the comment about other discharge and agree that this may be part of what I'm noticing.

I am really grateful for everyone's comments and for the forum in general! I only wish I'd found it years ago. Maybe I'll be able to convince my teenager to give cups and try and save her the years of mess and waste that I had!
laureina on September 24th, 2012 05:01 am (UTC)
Im having lots of issues with both my Meluna L and XL Can't remember if I bought the classic or soft :/ Anyways, Im on my 4th cycle now, and I get the burps with gushes. I can' seem to figure out why I am leaking so bad. I can't for the life of me find my cervix, I can't even reach it to find it. Im frustrated and wondering if I need to try something else. It won't pop open unless I manually open it, now Ive resorted to just easing it in while it is open, it is quite uncomfortable and slightly painful to insert fully open. I don't know what to do :/
m03m on September 24th, 2012 07:55 am (UTC)
You'd get some helpful replies, I'm sure, if you'd make a post of your own instead of a comment on someone else's. It would be easier to find and get more attention.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 24th, 2012 09:50 am (UTC)
It is crucial that you manage to unfold your cup fully before you let it go. There are dozens of folds, some of them very intricate and tiny but still very "springy" (I use the half diamond fold mostly, inserted facing the floor/ my back) and some of them barely folded, such as the triangle or 9 fold. See here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6L-POE-b0, here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep5hh0W-nFw&feature=related and here : http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#comments

Also, remember to stay very relaxed, find a comfortable position (I like lying on my back) and bear down even to keep everything open and loose. I usually open my cups manually too, by poking at the folding part or creating an air channel below the cup on the soft backside of my opening. The Meluna "soft" variety are pink, turquoise, yellow and silver glitter cups. The rest are firmer.