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18 September 2012 @ 04:53 pm
I purchased a mini meluna ball four months ago and luckily it came with a small ring stem.  The mini popped open more easily but I apparently have a high cervix and I lost it.  And by lost I mean pushing for 5+ minutes before I could even feel it much less try to grasp on to a slippery ball stem.  That was a disaster.  Then I used the small because that had to be better than the mini.  It was a little longer, but not enough to keep from losing it.  I even had it slide horizontal and stuck in a crevice somehow and when I tried to flip it out I ended up turning it upside down.  That was a miserable day and yet somehow one of the few days where I actually had a seal - go figure!.  So basically the mini and the small were terrible for me and couldn't hold anything.  I was checking on the cup 10 times more than a tampon in part because it wouldn't seal properly.  Now the first period I had no concept of what "popping" and "sealing" was which, as you can imagine, sucked. 

The second period I was able to get a little more of a seal but the capacity was still atrocious.  I purchased a medium and a large for the third period and somehow the large had a harder time sealing than the medium which I still cannot understand. 

During the third period I was able to get the medium to seal maybe about 5-6 times out of the cycle.  I was very excited about this because I thought I had started to master the cup!  I did this by jiggling and poking at the cup until it popped open, pulling it out and pushing it in as many times as it would take. 

This brings me to my fourth, and current, period.  Today was the first time in these 4 months that I have put in a tampon.  I am nearly at my wits end.  I was so proud last month but I can't seem to get it to work even remotely this month.  It will not pop open.  I have been able to get it to open, and I can even get it to seal, but it seals flat and I can't get it to surround my cervix.  I have tried angles and folds and keeping it lower and higher.  I have just...for lack of a better phrase...gotten pissed off.  I have no idea what I should be doing differently short of shelling out the money for yet another cup in a differenct brand.  Quite frankly I like meluna for the colors and the ring stem.  I feel like there has to be this grand solution that I have yet to find or a support group for women broken hearted over their cups.  Despite the awkwardness I just wish someone could show me how to do it so I would understand what to do because all of the visuals I have seen do not actually represent what is going on internally and therefore seem like unrealistic examples. 

I have considered purchasing the sport, which after all of the cups I have purchased would throw me into around the $200 mark to try to find something that works, but I feel like that may just be excessive.  I am sure that there is a way for this to work without me having to buy yet another product.  I mean, isn't that what I purchased the cup for - to save money by not buying tampons all the time?
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joy1989joy1989 on September 18th, 2012 10:13 pm (UTC)
What are all the cups that you've tried, like they were all melunas? I guess I'd say at this point. I absolutely understand your frustration. I've never had a meluna and I've only had my one cup(mcuk). So I don't know that I can offer you much advice with yours. I guess keep trying and don't let it get you down. It will work out.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on September 18th, 2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
Since you have a high cervix/long vagina, compare the cups you have to the other brands: http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/ and consider a longer cup with a higher capacity.

Edited at 2012-09-19 12:57 pm (UTC)
Prickle Bitch: batty!!meig on September 19th, 2012 03:30 am (UTC)
Maybe you need a different cup brand. Not all will work for everyone. While it can get expensive, sometimes you need to try a few brands before you find "your" cup.

juliiie87juliiie87 on September 19th, 2012 09:46 am (UTC)
"a support group for women broken hearted over their cups"

that's us alright !!

As you've found out the hard way, tiny little small & mini Meluna simply aren't for everyone. The length available to your cervix is what matters most in picking a cup. Too long and it might be uncomfortable, peek out and put pressure on that area, too short and it'll be a hassle to remove.

Now, let's try to stick to the cups you have first. To be honest, Melunas aren't the easiest to pop open, simply because they have only two holes, where other cups have 4. But I believe most diffculties in popping open and sealing can be overcome. It can actually be easier than it sounds/you think. Have you seen this post ? http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#cutid1 it applies primarily to soft cups, but it's basically a wealth of general advice for any cup.

Now, for my method of insertion. Pick the cup you believe works best with your body in terms of length and capacity. Run it under cold water and don't dry it off. Pick a comfortable position : for me, that's lying on my back, in the privacy of my bedroom, knees wide apart, lifting my butt up a little or resting on one elbow. It can also be sitting on the toilet, knees wide apart. Try various folds : my absolute favorite is uncommon, it's the half diamond, because it's so intricate my cups can't wait to pop open, and a gentle push inwards is usually all the fiddling it takes. Insert the folded part facing your anus, as it'll have more room to expand there. If needed, use a finger to create an air channel underneath the cup on the soft back side. Your cup needs air and room to expand, so stay very relaxed, push/bear down even, as I find this makes the opening wider. Don't try to shove it all the way THEN pop it open, just let it unfold as soon as possible, in one move. THEN once it's unfolded, you can gently nudge it and kegel it in place if need be. Or else it should find it's sweet spot on its own eventually, unless your cervix is in an odd spot, in which case you'll want to aim the cup at it (left, right, up or down). You're in the dreaded learning curve, keep practising at your own pace, you'll get it down in no time ! *Hugs & support*
erjohns on September 21st, 2012 02:01 am (UTC)
Thanks! I tried the diamond and was able to get it to pop open immediately. Still working on the seal though. I actually tried creating two extra holes to see if that would help the meluna get better suction. I don't think it has actually made a difference yet.
kayaker12 on September 21st, 2012 01:22 am (UTC)
I have a Meluna, and I find that sometimes I think it hasn't sealed, because it feels squished or different than usual, and it turns out that it was fine, and I just pulled it out too soon because I panicked and thought it was leaking. That happened when I was first trying to use it, but then I realized that the cup can be sealed without actually inflating-- it can still feel squished, but be working. Then it happened again on this period, because my cervix was lower than usual. I saw a little blood on the toilet paper and assumed it was leaking, but I think that was just vestigal sludge, because when I put it in later it worked fine, but felt the same. So I would give it a bit more time, if possible, before you decide it's not working. It could just be that it doesn't feel the way you think it's supposed to.

My insertion method, for what it's worth, is an origami fold, with the fold part pointing towards my back. When it's in, I can reach up and physically push the fold open. Then, I reach as close to the rim as I can get and push back against the vaginal wall. I hear a little burp or whoosh, but frequently don't feel any change. I think another user mentioned Melunas being difficult to open, but I don't find that to be the case at all. I can shove the thing in there, poke it around, give it a little air, and it's set. Hang in there!
erjohns on September 21st, 2012 01:56 am (UTC)
Thank you- that is encouraging. I have only felt it really inflate a few times but the idea that it can be sealed anyway is great. I really want if to work without having to go to a different brand.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 21st, 2012 12:08 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand what your exact issue about the seal is, but I feel like saying you shouldn't get too hung up on that. As long as it's unfolded and catching blood, you should be absolutely fine. And yes, I agree, Melunas, especially the softer variety (pink, turquoise, yellow, glittery) can feel and even look like they're squished when you take them out after a few hours, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not working. Cups naturally tend to for a light seal with your vaginal walls, unless those are very weak, and there's no need to create more suction. In fact, too much suction is usually uncomfortable, so we don't want that.
erjohns on September 21st, 2012 04:09 pm (UTC)
Basically the issue about the seal is that even if its open I am still getting leaks...like a lot. So I feel that there is obviously something not working.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 22nd, 2012 01:10 pm (UTC)
Then I'd suspect your cervix's wherabouts relatively to the cup's is to investigate, not suction.
moonhoney925 on September 24th, 2012 08:20 am (UTC)
To me it sounds like you are using cups that are too short for you. You would be better off with larger sized / longer cups. If you are worried by stems being uncomfortable try one with a tab stem such as large sized Lunette, L Natrual Mamma or L Fleurcup. Fleurcup has a sale on their blue coloured cups this week.

You can always sell your old cups on mc_sales and get your money back.