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The sad news is a young girl died this week in Israel from TSS and another girl is still in very bad condition.
The cup news is an article was published in one of the big newspapers (Haaretz) describing alternatives to tampons such as menstrual cups, soft cups and another natural method called menstrual awareness.
The girl got TSS from forgetting to take out a tampon after 16 hours. I was wondering is there any evidence that a cup is any safer than a tampon. I read there were no reported cases of TSS but the number of users is also much smaller.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on September 15th, 2012 12:12 pm (UTC)
That's not scientific evidence, of course, but pads and tampons smell disgusting after a short period of time. This means there are bacteria. Blood in a cup just smells like blood if you remove it after the recommended 12h. Even after 16-28 hours it only BARELY STARTS to smell a bit like pads do.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 15th, 2012 02:44 pm (UTC)
Also, I hear that some people have accidentally forgotten to take out their cups for like 3 days and are still fine. (But the cup smells horrible~so they say )
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on September 15th, 2012 02:54 pm (UTC)
it's horrible compared to what you get used to, but it's about as bad as pads, nothing worse really.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 15th, 2012 02:57 pm (UTC)
Well that's good. Out of curiosity since we are on the subject, I have never heard of a cup being connected to TSS. I know companies WARN about it but have you ever heard of a case? (just making sure something hasn't happened and I missed it lol)
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on September 15th, 2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
nope. well there has been this post... http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2672489.html TSS symptoms are pretty general so i doubt it was that.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 16th, 2012 09:57 am (UTC)
My understanding of it, which is very basic, is that tampons make a perfect moist, warm nest for bacteria to settle and grow, while cups, being smooth and inert, don't ork so good for bacteria. Plus the fact that very little oxygen gets in a sealed cup, as previously mentionned.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 16th, 2012 03:25 pm (UTC)
That seems to be what I understand of it too. Sea sponges also have one case of TSS apparently and that surprised me(besides how dirty research says they are)
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 16th, 2012 04:30 pm (UTC)
Well, to my basic understanding sea sponge tampons seem to work similarly to tampons, and I'm not suprised to hear they are hard to clean thoroughly.

One thing that I've read, though, is that high absorbency rayon fibers, that were introduced in the 70's and 80's when TSS rates were at their peak, are the worst in terms of providing a "nest". They are now considered body incompatible technology. Most of the highly absorbant brands from back then have been withdrawn, but still, nowadays most commercial tampons still contain rayon. There's only a couple brands of cotton only, unbleached tampons. Add to that by scratching the vaginal walls, they create a path for bacterias to get in the blood stream, which is really what makes TSS potentially deadly. More info on TSS : http://you-are-loved.org/
wiesoauchimmer on September 15th, 2012 03:07 pm (UTC)
i've had my cup in for about 48 hours at the tail end of my period a couple of times - there was a little bit of smell, but it was by far not as nasty as tampons or pads after even a couple of hours, and i found it to be a different category of smell. more like stale, congealed blood than like something rotten. so, i guess it might be different families of bacteria that colonize cups and pads/tampons.

afaik the staph bacteria (the one that causes tss) needs oxygen to grow, and i think oxygen is very limited in a cup, especially as it gets fuller, whereas in tampons every stronger movement you make lets a little fresh oxygen travel up your vagina. i'm no biologist though, so maybe someone else has more insight into the topic.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 15th, 2012 02:46 pm (UTC)
Hey can we have a link to the article (if it is posted online) because I would be really interested to read this!
joy1989joy1989 on September 15th, 2012 04:37 pm (UTC)
that's really sad about those girls, I thought it was so rare. How many women have died from TSS I wonder? what's this thing about menstrual awareness? is that like FAM(fertility awareness method)? also I'm interested in reading this article as well if it's online too :)
joy1989joy1989 on September 15th, 2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
Thank you! Interesting article. I've never heard about menstrual awareness before. I actually think it could work. Hmm...
naomi_h on September 15th, 2012 06:35 pm (UTC)
if you plan to try it on your own, the important thing is to relax. do not to clench and do not push (even if that seems to work for you).
excessive pushing and clenching might damage your pelvic floor.

Edited at 2012-09-15 06:36 pm (UTC)
naomi_h on September 15th, 2012 09:31 pm (UTC)
I was surprised there is so little info in English. But after searching for a while I did find a good English website
Hope it helps
okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on September 16th, 2012 01:29 am (UTC)
That's awful :(. I had a TSS scare when using tampons (they also had a little baking soda in them I think for natural odor control). I was VERY scared. Before that I'd rarely used tampons. After that I tossed the box and bought chlorine-free non-bleached non-chemical treated organic tampons. No troubles since then or up until I began using cups. I did a LOT of research on these tampons and felt comfortable and safe with them.

My scare may have not had anything to do w using tampons or maybe it did. I wasn't going to continue to risk it.
naomi_h on September 16th, 2012 01:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you all for your answers.