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12 September 2012 @ 09:40 pm
Hey everyone, just wanted to ask you a few questions! This is more of a rage question; hope you don't mind :)
Why are most people so close minded about menstrual cups and also freak out when you explain to them about what they are?
-is it the "ich" it's blood factor?
-is it the "i have to touch myself" factor?

And as a interest question, Why do you think people never really hear about menstrual cups?

I was just curious because I was telling one of my friends about them and another friend came in to the conversation and asked what we were talking about. I explained about menstrual cups and the girl freaked out and then later, in a public place, yes PUBLIC with more than 15 men/boys/teens, she started publicly mocking me about menstrual cups and announced to everyone that I used one. She referred to it as "a rubber tampon I had beside my sink" (she did not even dignify it with the proper name of "menstrual cup"). It really made me upset that someone could be so close-minded and it was really sort of embarrassing but I guess C'est la vie.
 
 
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coffee nut bitchpeiyu on September 13th, 2012 05:19 am (UTC)
Spoilt by ickiness of tampons and pads I guess.

I'm fortunate in that most friends I speak to are more fascinated by the idea than grossed out (except when I mention 'explosion in pants'). Most of them are not wearing tampons but pads, so it is a bit of a leap to get them to get past the fascination stage to actually using it.

I do have a friend who asked me a week ago if I could get a cup for her to try; I directed her to this site first :D
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 13th, 2012 09:41 pm (UTC)
That is awesome! My friends mostly wear tampons and are teenagers so they are more "do what society says" I guess.

Edited at 2012-09-13 09:41 pm (UTC)
perigrineperigrine on September 13th, 2012 05:37 am (UTC)
My 18yo daughter actually brought them up with me in the not so distant past, and declared they were gross! She is a pad only type of girl and not into boys, so the thought of poking around 'down there' just isn't her thing.

For me, the icky blood thing has always been an issue. The less I have to deal with it the better..but now I am growing up it's more a fact of life, and really cups are easier to clean up after.

I asked a guy who happened to be in the bathroom with me while I was showering to hand me the 'pink thing on the sink' - I wouldn't have dared ask him to hand me a tampon, or pad...so...yeah. Just one of those things.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 13th, 2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
Until some nosy person asks you what that 'pink thing on the sink" is and you don't have a good answer lol.
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vltavskavltavska on September 13th, 2012 08:37 am (UTC)
I don't know, but I think it's a pity.

I have noticed that culturally Americans seem to be more into applicator tampons, and I had a girl ask me for a tampon once, and I gave her an applicator free one and she was intrigued, but desperate enough to try it, but totally thought the "touching oneself" aspect was disturbing... which I find sad, to say the least. At the time I was 20, and she was 26 or so, so I was blown away that I had something to "teach" someone I had thought of as older and wiser!

I tell my friends about it (though don't harp on, nobody likes a crazy converter person!) because I figure that as uterus and vagina having people, they deserve to know there is another option. Goodness knows I love my cup and see it as something that changed my life for the better. (Plus that smug feeling in the personal hygiene aisle at the store, knowing libra gets no more money from me!!! :) )

It's sad that you had this experience, but more sad that it happened that a friend mocked you for it in front of other people- she sounds like a bad friend.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 13th, 2012 09:44 pm (UTC)
In today's society, everyone watches their own backs, not their friends like people in the old days did. I guess I am over it, it was just rude. I love looking at the poor people buying tampons and thinking that I won't have to do that again too :)
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wiesoauchimmer on September 13th, 2012 11:20 am (UTC)
i think it is the decades-long brainwash by pad- and tampon-companies.
they tell us in their commercials that periodfluid/blood is something icky that needs to be taken care of discreetly, encased in some cotton/polyester/plastic combination, so that a minimum of it ever needs to be seen, let alone handled, and everything that has been in contact with it needs to be thrown away immediately.

so, if you haven't had the time to wrap your brain around the fact that your body is a lot less icky than they want you to think, the prospect of a reusable product may seem alien and gross.

another thing in that same direction is that distinct "period smell" that disposables cause. it actually helps to believe that the whole period stuff is just gross, because nothing that smells like that coming out of your body should be something considered anything less than icky.

at the point i started using a cup i was desperate enough to try anything that would help me handle my super strong bleeding. while i was slightly uncomfortable with tampons i never considered them to be the reason, i thought it was just periods being a hassle, so if i had found even higher capacity tampons i would probably have stuck with them. but, alas, the ultra plus ob's where the biggest i could find, and so i decided to give cups a try. imagine my surprise when i noticed that the smell just wasn't there anymore! it helped a lot in finding the idea of reusing the cup great, and the thought of disposables has grossed me out ever since, because nothing that is able to create such a smell out of a nonsmelling liquid in a mere matter of hours should be allowed anywhere near my body.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 13th, 2012 03:26 pm (UTC)
My thoughts exactly ! Especially the commercials brainwash !! So infuriating !

And the smell... smell is an indicator of bacteria... bacterias can lead to TSS... 'nuff said.

And to anyone who might wonder why cups don't get more advertisement on TV or better spots on the shelves in stores... Well, cups aren't a very good capitalist product. You see, they don't thrive on imposing a monthly tax on every single bleeding uterus. More reasons for me to like them.
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Charissacharissa on September 13th, 2012 03:06 pm (UTC)
I first discovered menstrual cups when I saw a divacup in the feminine product isle at my local drug store! Back then (about 6 or 7 years ago) Divacup had a thing on the package of you can return it if it doesn't work out. I was very curious so I tried it out (and it failed as the cup is too long).

IMO, they should menstrual cups more visible and in stores. I knew a few co workers that all used Divacups and they all got into it since they saw it in the drugstore.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 13th, 2012 09:47 pm (UTC)
I agree, it is so hard to find one in a store. The only stores in CO that carry them are Whole Foods and I never shop there!
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Lorlorrainec on September 13th, 2012 03:18 pm (UTC)
I'm betting it's partly the non-disposable factor. That, combined with the brainwashing that all things period are icky and gross. Being able to sterilize them doesn't change the feeling, for a lot of people, that you're putting something that has touched horrible nasty period blood back in your body.

Compare it to a handkerchief. Know anyone who uses one? I don't anymore, because everyone uses disposable tissues now and carrying around a snotty cloth in your pocket all day is "gross." (Well, I actually do think that's kind of gross.)
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 13th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
Interesting analogy!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on September 13th, 2012 03:23 pm (UTC)
That friend of a friend acted like a immature fool. I hope your friend reconsiders her friendship with her.

But similarly, I've had more girl friends "run away screaming" (not literally) than guy friends about cups. Guys seem to think they are far more practical "tools" than gals.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 13th, 2012 09:49 pm (UTC)
It is interesting you say this because you would think most guys would gawk and tell you it is gross to talk about periods. You must have some great guy friends :)
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okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on September 13th, 2012 04:53 pm (UTC)
What a terrible "friend". She gets to suffer through drying tampons and you get a wonderful cup.

That's so awful though :(. I'm sorry that that happened to you. Hopefully everyone realized what a beeytch she was being and didn't agree with her.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 13th, 2012 09:50 pm (UTC)
Haha I wish, my other "friend" joined in laughing about it even though she had, seconds before, thought it was an interesting idea to use a cup. It really wasn't that bad except of course, there were a bunch of cute boys listening in (although they didn't pry).
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neetzscheneetzsche on September 13th, 2012 10:57 pm (UTC)
I first learned about them having a conversation with my friends. We seemed to think it was some crunchy granola hippie thing. Also I way over-estimated the size of cups. I recall saying "I don't want to fist myself 5 times a day." I totally thought they'd be like the size of a drinking glass, lol. Even after studying which kind to get I was way underwhelmed by the size of the menstrual cup when it was delivered.

I have to agree with what wiesoauchimmer said about disposables amplifying period smell, too. You'd think period blood was a noxious waste that has no business being kept inside you for too long if you didn't know disposables changed the smell.
okwaho_okaraokwaho_okara on September 14th, 2012 01:37 am (UTC)
Until I used a cup, I always thought it smelled too. What an eye opener.
fluffmyflamingofluffmyflamingo on September 14th, 2012 07:11 am (UTC)
I have to say that when I first read about them I was all like wtd? Eew! And when I mentioned them to a close friend of an older generation she told me that it was what prostitutes use!! The eew factor for me was both of those things to be honest, I'm squeamish about blood and until getting my iud nearly 12 months ago I was absolutely phobic about ferreting around inside my lady bits but obviously had to get over that for the associated string checking sessions! For me I finally started using them out of desperation as I was suffering with really heavy watery menstrual fluid that tampons just couldn't deal with. I'm now a happy cup user and would admit their use and sing it's praises now but wouldn't be shouting about it to strangers though! :-P
teacupcake89 on September 14th, 2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
don't be disheartened! Most of us will have thought a mixture of curiosity and horror/surprise when we first discovered cups!

I find it helps to plant the seed of curiosity and hope that after a few more mentions of how fab cups are down the line, they'll be curious enough to want to know more. :D if not, then it's their loss!

If your friend reacts this way again etc etc you can just remind her of her pile of bloody pads and tampons being pecked at by birds in a landfill site somewhere, niiccce.

You don't say how old you are, but my friends would have reacted the same way at high school, and many grown women respond similarly too. It just says more about their own prejudices than anything about you or cups :)

I think it's a combination of the 'eww blood hands-on' method and that it's something new and 'strange'. I can only imagine what some women must have thought about tampons when they were first marketed!!

also, cup companies can't afford the million pound advertisements to advertise their products as women tend to only buy one cup, unlike pad/tampon companies who have a steady income of money each month...I wish we could find a way to donate money to Lunette/MeLuna etc so they could have an advert, I really think it would make a lot of impact in awareness.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 15th, 2012 01:58 am (UTC)
I am 15 so I'm a sophmore. Some girls were really interested (I'm not a "crazy converter" some people just dig through your backpack and find things and then want to know what they are lol) Yup, I wish we could find a way to advertise more!
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mkchimkchi on September 15th, 2012 06:19 pm (UTC)
I think a big part of the reason hardly any people hear about them is because in most sex-ed classes, where girls and boys learn about period-related things for the first time, most instructors show tampons and pads. There's hardly ever a reference to cloth pads or menstrual cups. Also, until recently women very, very rarely spoke about periods. I know when I started talking to my mom about it, for a long while she was kind of shocked. Then over time she realized it was a good thing to discuss. My sister is horrified by the idea of cups because she thinks it would be gross to have to touch it when it contains menstrual blood, but in all honesty I have started to be more disgusted by tampons than I am by cups.
Kristenkrissyluuful89 on September 16th, 2012 12:58 am (UTC)
My friend did the same thing during class once and she just thinks a menstrual cup is the funniest thing ever. She asked me what it looked like and I described it like a bell. So she thinks it's the funniest thing to say that when I'm wearing it I go ding-a-ling-a-ling. I know how annoying and embarrassing it is that is :)
loveyourcuploveyourcup on September 22nd, 2012 08:39 am (UTC)
I found the reaction different from girls depending on their nationality. (I am french) French girlfriends appart from the ones like me that are into eco stuff found it intriguing but had to try to believe it was that good. The others all made the disgusted faces like if i told them they should wash their hair with it after.

In germany where I live right now (Berlin) girls are less disturbed by the idea of having to "touch" themselves to do it. (i dont really see the difference with tampons without applicators but well...)

Bali where I also spend a few months a year were very curious by the concept and loved the idea not to have have to buy disposables again, which are expensive over there. Once they are used they burn them...so toxic, it drives me crazy when i see them do that.

American girls seems to be more open to the idea compared to europeans which surprises me a little.

To be honest I think it's the new factor, people are scared of novelty and to get out of their comfort zone and what they know. The more menstrual cup will be talked about the more people will drop all these prejudices that you have to be some crazy hippy with no sense of hygiene to like cups.

It's a process but I think it will happen in the next few years.
foggyimagefoggyimage on September 22nd, 2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
That is actually very interesting detective work! Thanks for that insight :)
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