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OmniAlia
06 September 2012 @ 10:41 pm
Hello folks, wonder if I could get some specific details on a couple of cups.  I looked at some comparisons but didn't find the exact answers.

Does anyone have a Lunette AND a Meluna classic? Does the Meluna feel much softer? (the meluna classic, not the meluna soft). The stiff rating for lunette was 8 and for Meluna is 4.  Does it feel noticibly different?

The large meluna seems that it has a slightly lower capacity than the large lunette.  Does it make much of a difference?  I like wearing my large lunette up to 12 hours and it does get full on the so so heavy days and has to be changed more often.  I'm worried I'll have to change a large meluna even more frequently.  But also worried about buying an XL meluna- the large Lunette is about the biggest size i can use, anything else is too long.  

Lastly, how do the holes on the meluna differ from the lunette?  The holes are very hard to clean on the Lunette, and it's hard to sometimes release the suction on the cup.  

I'm about to buy a meluna, and i'm struggling what to get.  I'm getting two, but whether i should get a meluna large, classic, or meluna soft, or xl soft or xl classic, and what combo of both! So hard to decide.  And even wonder if I should get the medium for low flow days.  Is that a bit silly? 

I Do like my lunette a LOT, the only things that bother me is that its stiffness has way too powerful suction, and that stupid stem always irritates me- I cut it off and tried to file it with a metal file which did NOTHING. Heh.  So yeah, whichever meluna cups I get, I plan to get the basic cups (no stem/no ball/no ring).  I don't need them at all.  But do want a softer cup.

Thanks for the tips!!

Btw my husband keeps teasing me because I keep telling all my friends about the cups and I sound like a commercial.... but seriously I can't fathom why these aren't advertised more.  All my friends are going and buying these cups now.  And one friend is a nurse, and she's so excited to spread the news too.  That makes me very, very happy. :)

Too bad we don't get commissions when we get friends to buy cups!  Or at least a free cup! ;)
 
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 6th, 2012 04:57 pm (UTC)
I don't have all the specific cups you asked for, all I can do is recommend this chart, which rates classic Melunas at 6, given the medium IS indeed noticeably softer, in my experience : http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/
The large meluna felt pretty firm to me, compared to my Cuplee so I don't know. Holes seem small to me but they are easy enough to clean in my experience. The soft one I have is really soft but I managed to make it unfold pretty easily using the cold water trick and the most intricate folds (half diamond is my fav'), inserted facing down. Soft, short and high capacity, have you considered a large Fleurcup ? Sounds like the best bet to me, and a smooth fit given how round it is at the base compared to a Lunette. Or a large Miacup/Cuplee ? http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

Finally, loveyourcup has a shop through which you can get into a referal programme : http://shop.menstrualcup.co/pages/Become-a-reseller.html

My bf is amused too, and so far, in a year, I've convinced 2 of my best friends to get a cup and they love them ! :)

Edited at 2012-09-06 05:01 pm (UTC)
teacupcake89 on September 6th, 2012 05:11 pm (UTC)
if you look at the comparison photo of the large lunette and XL meluna in this meluna album: http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/t224-meluna-comparison-photos there doesn't seem to be much difference body length wise, I reckon you'd be fine if you got the basic no stem model. The XL is also only 1mm wider than your large Lunette so I don't think it'll be noticeable if the cup is softer! :)

round bottomed cups can have better capacity than 'pointy' bottomed ones if your cervix sits in the cup a bit, but I don't know how much difference it would be for you, do you fill your lunette up to the holes?

I don't have a meluna so can't comment on softness/stiffness or holes but I'm sure someone else will!

I know Mooncup UK have a commission if you get friends etc to buy a cup! But I'd rather spread the word about 'cups' and a selection of brands rather than suggest a stiff, low capacity cup! :)

I LOVE that everyone is spreading the word! :) congrats on converting people! slowly working on my Mum and sister... ;)
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 6th, 2012 05:26 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, definitely from the pics I'd say if OP wants 2 Melunas, they should get a L and an XL no stem, and at least one of those in soft. I'd consider getting a ball or stem with the shortest, just because a round bottom shape is very different to remove than a pointy bottom (which is easier to grasp in my opinion). However, a soft bottom still beats a firm one in terms of ease of removal, imo.

Edited for typos.

Edited at 2012-09-06 05:27 pm (UTC)
OmniAliaomnialia on September 7th, 2012 06:26 am (UTC)
I'm really having a hard time deciding! I'm afraid that XL will be too big... it's longer than a large Lunette and sometimes even that is too long for me :( I seriously can NOT have any kind of stem, at least not with a large cup, because it will hang out and be all kinds of painfully irritating.

I want softer than my Lunette, but I'm not sure how soft to go. Should i get one large soft basic cup and one large classic basic? that's a half-soft and very soft so I'd have 3 types of stiffness cups. I'm worried about XL being too long... and if its too long and too soft wont it have a hard time staying open/not collapsing?

if I got an XL and it is too long could I turn it inside out? Will that make it shorter? Does it make it any stiffer?

with my Lunette I don't need anything except a basic U-fold (fold it in half). I have to get it at least halfway in and then open it slowly so it doesnt snap against the cervix. Ouch.

Why is it so hard to decide on a cup?

Btw I don't want to buy fleurcup because they have stems.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 7th, 2012 10:11 am (UTC)
I only suggested a Fleurup because it has a record of fitting low cerviced folks and is in any case no longer than your Lunette. If you have a look through the tags you could find out how m03m (sp?) filed down any remants of a stem and grip rings on her Fleurcup, but turning it inside out will do the exact same thing. And being so rounded, it shouls feel much different than the pointy end of a Lunette.

I don't think I've tried turning my Melunas inside out, at least not the classic ? I would guess it's possible and will make them slightly shorter... I'll have to get back to you on that later on I'm afraid.

About stiffness : personnally I like softer cups better, so I found my large classic annoying and bulky to fold, pop open and remove, it didn't really pop open at once like I thought firmer cups did. However, it was surprisingly comfortable, no pains or discomfort, just a slightly harder time performing kegels, that's all. One of my friends got a large + medium bundle in classic, and she found out she had a very low cervix, but passed the first day she actually liked the large a lot (she has a heavy flow, checks every 4 hours or so), and had no learning curve to speak of. She took my advice and went for the half diamond fold, apparently it's very much fool proof. How about you just order a large for now, if you're worried ? Especially if you don't mind having to empty it just a little more often. Any cup you don't like, I'm sure you could still re-sell on mc-sales.
OmniAliaomnialia on September 7th, 2012 09:49 pm (UTC)
I'm also getting a bundle of two cups, and I just can't decide....
A: A large classic + An XL soft
B: A large soft and an XL classic
C: A large soft and an XL soft
D: A large classic and an XL classic

Been thinking for ages and can't decide yet... maybe i'm over thinking it...

If I get (A) I'm worried the large will not hold enough, and that the XL soft will be too long and too soft and therefore collapse inside.
If I get (B) I'm worried the large will not hold enough and that the XL will be too big and too strong.

AUGH
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 7th, 2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean, I've been there...^^
If I had to do it again, I'd get the bigger one in soft, so it would feel less bulky inside and when it's time to grasp the bottom for removal (plus it should be easier to flip inside out!). Besides, you already have a high capacity firm cup (as I already owned a soft one), if you ever need one.
Darn typos !

Edited at 2012-09-07 09:58 pm (UTC)
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on September 6th, 2012 08:56 pm (UTC)
not sure...they look like they have a similar length, but a couple mm can make a HUGE difference. my large ladycup HURTS right side out, but I can wear it inside out.
OmniAliaomnialia on September 7th, 2012 06:21 am (UTC)
What does turning it inside out do?
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on September 7th, 2012 08:28 am (UTC)
it shortens the cup by a couple mm :) narrower cups can shorten even more impressively, like a diva getting about as short as the lunette. but a fleurcup keeps the same shape&length because it's so rounded, so idk if this works with an XL meluna. it works with my small meluna but the shape of the rim changes and it makes it uncomfortable, so that's the only cup i wear right side out.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on September 6th, 2012 06:59 pm (UTC)
I have a small Lunette and a small soft Meluna, so unfortunately, I can't answer your question about softness (for what it's worth, the small, soft Meluna is noticeably softer than the small Lunette -- can't feel a thing when it's in). I do find the two holes of the Meluna easier to clean. I think the material at the rim where the holes are is thinner, so there's less space for stuff to get trapped. The suction doesn't seem particularly strong for the soft Meluna. However, it's not the cup I reach for first because I have trouble getting it to pop open.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on September 6th, 2012 08:55 pm (UTC)
have you seen this post? http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html
@ OP, if you want a soft, comfy cup, don't worry about popping open. the difficulties are overrated.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on September 6th, 2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
I have. I can get it open, but it takes easily five times as long and I usually end up regretting that I haven't trimmed my nails down to the nub. I have other cups which are equally comfortable but pop open with no fuss (the small LadyCup is my favorite), so I don't usually bother with the Meluna.
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 7th, 2012 10:41 am (UTC)
May I ask which fold you use ? I'm a fan of folds you can help unfold manually, so there's no need to keep reinserting hopingthat the cup will eventually decide to pop open on its own. For me, that's half diamond and labia especially, but some have good luck with the triangle fold.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on September 7th, 2012 03:36 pm (UTC)
I can get it to open with the origami and labia, but even so, it never really pops open. I have to ease it open with my finger, sometimes pull it down a little, sometimes turn it around...hence the injuries if my nails are even a little long. The firmer rim on the LadyCup doesn't bother me at all (maybe because it's super soft where a uniformly firmer cup like the Lunette presses into my bladder).
juliiie87juliiie87 on September 7th, 2012 03:41 pm (UTC)
I usually have to coax my cups open a little bit with my finger too. Try half diamond facing down once if you're looking for something easier, I find it's actually quite hard to hold folded, and once its pretty much shoved in, a simple poke inwards at the lowest part of the fold is all it takes (for me) ! :)
Li: personalllyse on September 8th, 2012 05:57 am (UTC)
Hmm, I own a large Lunette and a small classic Meluna (ball stem), but comfort-wise I don't feel much difference between them. The Lunette has thicker walls and pops harder (it's more likely to slip out of my hold during insertion, ow), but I don't know how much of that is due to the size.

The holes on both my cups look about the same size, but the ones on the Lunette are set closer to the rim (and there are 4 compared to the Meluna's 2). I usually clean them with the "fill cup with water, cover top with palm, and squeeze bottom" method, and it works fine.

Hopefully this helps in some way, haha.