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A couple of years ago, a friend told me all about her wonderful new mooncup. I was curious, but shortly after I got pregnant and had a baby so I forgot about it. Sunday my period returned and on a whim I bought a mooncup UK A. Monday morning I tried it for the first time. I hated it! It hurt, it leaked, and I couldn't seem to position it like it showed in the instructions. By evening I was desperate, but it cost too much to give up that easily.

After Little One went to bed, I hit google and somehow found my way to this group. I quickly realized that my problems were caused by a low cervix. Then I read about turning the cup inside-out and decided to try it the next morning. OMG, what a difference it made! It fitted, no leaks, and no sharp end to poke me. So thank you, thank you, thank you! I probably would have ended up throwing my cup away if it wasn't for you guys.

I have a couple of questions:
1) LO still wakes in the night, so I tend to go to bed quite early. I'm usually in bed for around 10 hours, but the instructions say not to leave the cup in for more than 8. Is it OK to leave it in a bit longer, assuming it's not full?

2) I've been thinking of getting a larger capacity cup for heavy days. I need a short cup with my low cervix, but short ones also tend to be narrower and I'm worried that, with being a 32-year-old mother, smaller ones will fall out. Any suggestions?
 
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 16th, 2012 08:56 pm (UTC)
Gotta run out, so just a few pointers :

1)people keep them in as long as 24 hours, the worst that could happen is a smelly cup, so worry not !

2) See these charts http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/. I suggest a wide, short cup such as large Fleurcup. But honestly, UK Mooncups are amongst the lowest capacity cups, so you have plenty of options.
teacupcake89 on August 16th, 2012 09:22 pm (UTC)

Agreeing with julie's advice :) you can leave it in for as long as you're asleep, if it smells a bit funny just give it a proper good clean when you empty it :)

Fleurcups (and most other cups if you look at the stiffness chart ratings) are much softer than MCUKs so that might help with it being uncomfortable to insert or if it feels like it presses on your bladder. Large Fleurcups also have a much higher capacity because of the round bottom shape and high holes even if your cervix sits in the cup on low days :)

If you're in the UK, you can buy cups from femininewear.co.uk with free delivery! :) although fleurcups can only be bought through their website.

have a look at the photo comparisons here if you haven't seen them already (look at the latest albums as well as the MCUK one as they don't all have the newer brands) : http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library

in the meanwhile if you find you need to empty your MCUK quite a lot you could always empty it after getting up in the middle of the night with LO.

I also bought my MCUK from Boots without knowing about other brands and only found this comm when I was having difficulties :D spread the word! :)
llariallaria79 on August 17th, 2012 08:25 am (UTC)
Thanks, I hadn't found the photo library yet. It's very helpful to see a visual comparison.
Ashatenlegspider on August 16th, 2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
Mooncup used to say 12 hours. Presumably they changed it in line with tampon recommendations because it would make them harder to sue, but really cups aren't as friendly to bacteria as tampons. I leave mine for 14-16 hours.

I'm not sure why the other posters are suggesting soft cups to you since you haven't described any problems with stiffness, not that there's anything wrong with a soft cup (except maybe it wouldn't help with your concerns about width?). You are pretty stuck in small cup territory if you want a cup that's smaller than a Mooncup, but you might find that's fine. A lot of people use a size that isn't recommended for their age, and we've had people here who could use their small cups within a year of childbirth. If you can get an idea of how your muscle tone compares to before you gave birth that would help.
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 17th, 2012 12:03 am (UTC)
True, muscle tone is a factor, but if OP wants a high capacity cup, with a somewhat low cervix (Mooncup was too long), she's better off looking for something short and wide. Sure there are other brands in this size range, such as large Lunette and Ladycup, I only mentionned the large Fleurcup because it has a record of fitting low-cervixed folks.
Ashatenlegspider on August 17th, 2012 12:22 am (UTC)
Oops typo, I meant to say, you are pretty stuck in small cup territory if you want a cup that's shorter than a Mooncup. The large Fleur is longer, only some small cups and the medium MeLuna are shorter.
llariallaria79 on August 17th, 2012 08:34 am (UTC)
The mini MeLuna looks nice but I wouldn't be gaining anything with capacity, which is a shame. It looks like a choice between a large Fleur and a large Lunette. Hopefully the extra couple of mm won't make too much difference.
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 17th, 2012 11:13 am (UTC)
According to people on here, the large Fleurcup, due to its wide, bell-shape, can sit (o) around your cervix and comfortably fit people with pretty low cervixes. The Large Lunette is pretty firm and more tappered, so for some people the pointy end that's left when you cut the stem off can be irritating. That's why i suggested it.
OmniAliaomnialia on August 17th, 2012 09:23 am (UTC)
Ok, sounds soooo much like me. I'm also a mom, and I have an EXTREMELY low cervix since having a very large baby. I can't wear a long cup, or have any stem, and if its too narrow its no good. But thanks to very weak pelvic floor muscles, a very stiff cup causes a bit of bladder discomfort and even cervix discomfort.

Currently I'm using a large Lunette, which I got for its shape- shorter and wider. It works EXTREMELY well but even that could be shorter. It holds up very well during heavy flow tho I may change it at 8 hours instead of the maximum 12 Lunette goes by. :)

I am probably going to buy a Meluna large soft and medium soft veeeeeeeery soon. I have no idea if Meluna classic is softer than Lunette? I was unaware of how stiff Lunette was when I got it.

I keep my cup in for about 12 on a medium flow, and wash it each time I empty it, rinse with pure water, and put back in. NO problems so far. No stains or anything.

Btw if you're interested, Meluna has a sale combo offer- get 2 cups, plus a boiling cup and a candle, for a discount price. :)

Good luck- I love my cup!! My husband laughs at me because I've been RAVING about it since I got it. And I recently got a friend to try the diva cup, and she's a total convert now too. We must spread the word!! I think so many of us would have used the cup WAY sooner but had no idea such things existed!!
Arrow_Brightarrow_bright on August 17th, 2012 06:18 pm (UTC)
The large Lunette is rated 8/10 (with 10 being the stiffest), while the MeLuna classic is 6/10. The MeLuna soft is 2/10.

Source: http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/
moonhoney925 on August 17th, 2012 01:56 pm (UTC)
You can wear the Lunette inside-out if need be. The Fleurcup is the only one that you cannot do this with. Not sure if that helps.

Also I have worn my cups (Lunette and Fleurcup) for over 24 hours at the end of my cycle and have not had any smell related problems.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on August 17th, 2012 02:02 pm (UTC)
I'm another who suggests the large Fleurcup. Even though it seems counter-intuitive to pick a cup that's longer (albeit just a hair) than your Mooncup, the wider body of the cup should solve some of your fit and leakage problems. I'm a large Lunette user (and I *LOVE* it) but as mentioned, it has a tapered "pointy" end and it can often feel very stiff so I wonder if the Fleur wouldn't be more comfortable. The Fleur is squishier and has a rounded base.

Like the Luentte, the Fleur also has a frosted texture that seems to grip and seal securely against leakage. As you can see by my userpic, I also have an old-style (yellow) Mooncup and I think its slick exterior allows for a bit of leakage.

As for how long to wear it, most cups say to attend to it at least once every 12 hours. I have accidentally left mine in for longer and I don't think those instances were "harmful" to me or the cup but wow, it and I smelled pretty BAD as a result.

And keep up on your kegels. There are many different kegel tools. Some are hands-on and require interaction -- such as wands or tethered "orgasm balls" or gizmos that look kinda like speculums. My favorite tool is just plain Ben Wa Balls. Start with ones that are about 1" and 3/4oz apiece and then graduate to those that are appx 3/4" and 1oz apiece. The idea is to insert them and keep them in while you walk around, do the dishes, etc. Start with 20 minutes a day and build from there. The longer you keep them in, they harder they'll be to keep them inside. That's what's working your PCs -- hands free, no interaction required. Do this at home. Be sure to remember to remove them (relax, cough and catch) before going out or using the toilet.

But it has recently come to light that kegel exercises are not enough. You will need to add squats (for the butt muscles) and crunches (for both upper and lower abdominal muscles) to your exercise routine. They all work together to tone vaginal muscles.
moonhoney925 on August 18th, 2012 10:30 am (UTC)
I recommend kegel balls too. I have had 2 vaginal births, I only found out about kegel balls recently and after 2 months on and off use they have already made a difference for me.

Apparently, they are great for sex but too I have not tried that theory out.

Edited at 2012-08-18 10:31 am (UTC)
pinkmathpinkmath on August 21st, 2012 03:20 am (UTC)
After reading through the comments I noticed a few Fleurcup recommendations. I was really on the fence about buying a Fleurcup because of the grip rings. Then I saw M03m's post:

http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2387402.html#cutid1

She sandpapered off the grip rings! I think that's so cool. I bought a Fleurcup but I found that I love the grip rings. Everyone is different! :)
joandmarcus on January 6th, 2013 12:13 am (UTC)
I want to thank you for this message as it has really helped me with similar issues I've had with the moon cup. I didn't know I had a low lying cervix (assumed it was just an absence of pelvic floor muscles, and it still might be!) but turning the cup inside out has worked today for me and no leaks. Yesterday I had lots of pain and leaks! So thanks!