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01 August 2012 @ 12:07 am
Sorry to add another post but I really have so many issues going on.  I've been reading the posts on here and have tried to figure it out myself to no avail.  Here's my situation:

Bought a Divacup 1 on friend's recommendation before knowing about this community (love it btw!).  This is my 2nd cycle with it, on my 1st cycle, I didn't "get the hang of it" early on when I had a heavy flow so didn't face many of these issues.

I have a pretty short cervix, about 1.75 inches in.  My opening is pretty small, but once you get inside, there is like, spaces on the left and right (nooks and crannies!) of the cervix.  Because the cervix is short, I have to flip the cup inside out.  I use the labia folding method, this is the smallest circumference I can get the cup to fold and the ONLY way I can get the cup in.

  1. When I put the cup in, it unfolds itself, but there is NO WAY to pop this sucker open to a fully circular shape.  Is it supposed to?  There is simply no space!  I guess my pubic bone is in the way?  Am I doing this wrong?
  2. When I put it in, the bottom is still peeking out but not sticking out.  Is this correct?  And I'm not sure how to "position it toward your cervix", (though I feel like it is positioned toward my cervix? so I don't really need to worry about this?) because there is like, no space and no other way I can possibly position it.. No alternate positions to explore.  Any advice?
  3. 5 minutes after insertion, the cup travels inward.. to the right of my cervix, into a nook/cranny. It goes maybe 1 inch inward, and stays here no matter what.  I can only take it out or leave it there, there is like no space for me to move it elsewhere.  It still does not expand into a fully circular shape though.  And because it's deeper inside, and no longer covering my cervix, I get some slobber.  Most of the stuff stays in the cup though, but there is enough coming out where I need to wear a pad/pantyliner.  I have no idea why the cup is traveling like this, and I didn't really see other people posting on it.  What do you think?
  4. Important:  When I'm wearing the cup, I'm always kind of aware that it's in there, and I think it's my cervix feeling it and being sensitive to the fact that the cup is resting next to it.  It woke me up really early this morning and I couldn't even go back to sleep b/c I had the feeling of the cup inside me.  Normally, I am a very heavy sleeper and can ALWAYS fall back asleep... Now this cup that I want to love is making me have dark circles under my eyes and tired all day at work :(  Does anyone else have issues with having their cervix feel the cup all the time?
  5. This one's not as important, but if I'm not on a heavy flow, I literally have to put water in my vagina for lubrication.  What do you gals use?  Is it bad to use tap water?  I've seen people post about using lube but I'm not a fan, it just feels so *unnatural*..
So I was thinking, maybe I should get a different (wider?) cup for my short cervix?  Maybe this is the answer to all my problems?  But I want to at least figure this out to a certain point with the Divacup that I have before trying to get another one.  I might not be doing things right with this one and might not understand cups and cup usage well enough to make a wise decision on selecting the Diva replacement.  Or maybe I'm just not using this correctly, and once I do, I will love the Divacup?

Thank you for reading and thanks in advance for responding.  Any responses are immensely appreciated!  :)  By the way, if any of my questions have been answered extensively in other previous posts feel free to link them instead of re-typing stuff!
juliiie87juliiie87 on August 1st, 2012 08:23 am (UTC)
Well, right off the bat, I think because your cervix is so low (not short, that's your vagina), the cup ends up past your cervix, next to it on one side. You want it (o) around it. What you can try, is to let the cup pop open as soon as the rim is in, possibly as soon as it is past your pubic bone, but you may have to let go of it even lower, and then gently coax/kegel it up in position. It's ok if the cup peeks out, as long as it's catching blood & you can stand it. I always run my cup under cold water before inserting, and DO NOT dry it off. My flow is fairly light and I often insert ahead of time, so why make it more difficult ?

As you've found out, the Diva is the longest cup, and there may be better options for you out there : http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/ Btw, 1.75 inches is 44-45 mm, so there are definitely shorter cups. You'll probably be fine with a wide, short cup, large Fleurcup perhaps and most shorter cups. I think the Diva inside out is about 2 inches / 5 cm long ? If you definitely want something shorter, there's a cluster of cups at 45 mm, I suggest medium mini Meluna or small Naturcup depending on what shape looks most likely to fit your body. Compare them depending on how stiff/soft you want a cup to be, and how much capacity you need. It is a good idea to try and make the Diva work first, though. Good luck in your research !

Here's to help you with unfolding the cup : http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#cutid1
I personnally use cold water, half diamond or labia fold, face the fold towards the floor, and sort of help it open poking and pushing the fold inward on the bottom vaginal wall.

Edited at 2012-08-01 08:34 am (UTC)
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on August 1st, 2012 09:13 am (UTC)
a medium meluna will have too little capacity. could be a good option for the light days, though.

OP, a fleurcup will be able to go deeper due to its shape. a "wide" shape can be more important than the actual diameter. try a fleurcup and then see if you want another cup for light days. or you could take advantage of the large+small fleurcup offer.
teacupcake89 on August 1st, 2012 12:35 pm (UTC)
agreeing with the other comments: the Diva is one of the longest cups available....a softer shorter cup might help with easier positioning and less pressure.

but perhaps give the Diva a cyle or two more to really get the hang of insertion and removal. perhaps try inserting lying down on your bed? can help to feel where it's going if you don't have to support your legs at the same time!

you can use coconut oil instead of lube or lots of spit/water. Lots of people can only have PIV sex with lube so I doubt it's 'unnatural'... I struggle to insert my cup with lube (even when relaxed!)

your cup can be more of an oval shape once it has opened up inside to fit your body inside/muscles pressing against it.

have a look at the comparison photos here: http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library
look at the more recent albums at the top as the Diva album doesn't have the newer cups/melunas.

Arrow_Bright: Gusarrow_bright on August 1st, 2012 07:27 pm (UTC)
I use plain tap water for lube (though I put it on the cup, not me, because it doesn't make the cup too slippery), but if this isn't enough, you can use some sort of food-grade vegetable oil. I would recommend coconut oil (put it on you, not the cup) because it absorbs so nicely into the skin. I use it on my hands, and it absorbs relatively quickly and leaves no residue.
phantomkat on August 2nd, 2012 10:22 pm (UTC)
I have a small Diva Cup, and on my first cycle, I was aware of it sometimes, which includes when I was sleeping. I cut the whole stem off since I didn't need it for removal, and on my second cycle, I didn't feel the cup at all. Perhaps that could be a part of your problem?

I also have problems with it opening fully, but I think I found a good solution. I use the punch-down fold, with the folded part facing the floor, and insert it. Then I bear down and use my finger to push against the walls of my vagina at the same time. This seems to let in more air, and the cup is soon fully open. Sometimes it's stubborn and I have to do it more than once.