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Hi All,

3 years ago I had a small Diva cup.  I liked it but had alot of trouble getting it to pop open.  Very frustrating.  I had my daughterr by emergency c section a year ago an afterwards purchased a large Lunette Selene.  It popped open great but leaked constantly and was painful (maybe because of the stiffness?).  After three months I gave it to a friend.   I decided to give cups a try again and purchased a large Fleurcup yesterday.  I chose the large Fleurcup because of the texture, holes, length and capacity.  I also find French products to be of good quality.  I am hoping third cups a charm.  I am 5'7" and 125 lbs.  i have a high cervix and very tight pelvic floor muscles.  I do lots of squats and leg lifts. Since havin my daughter I have a heavy flow.  Any advice?  How can I get it to pop open easily and completely unfold?  How can I get a better seal and avoid leaks?  Did I pick a cup I should stick to or should I have purchased a different one?  Thanks!
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 29th, 2012 03:31 pm (UTC)
There's no way for us to know if it will be a good cup for you. Only time will tell. It is a softer cup than the large Lunette so theoretically, it will be more comfortable.

Your external dimensions have nothing to do with your internal ones. Cups sit above your pelvic floor muscles so (as you already know) you just need to relax them for insertion and removal, and then you can go back to holding them as tightly as you normally do.

To get a cup to open, the trick is to get air into it. A vagina is like an empty balloon, no air in it so the air has to come from outside. One way is to create an air channel on the soft back side of your vag to get the air to seep in through the anti-suction holes and/or whoosh over the rim.

Despite what the instructions say, a cup will usually sit (O) around your cervix. Good fit probably plays the biggest role in getting it to seal and stay in place.
itzwibble on July 29th, 2012 03:48 pm (UTC)
How do I tell if it is a good fit before purchase? What should my guidelines be? Any suggestions? Do I need a narrower cup since the lunette always leaked?
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 29th, 2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
You are already familiar with your small Diva and to a lesser degree the large Lunette. Compare dimensions and capacities at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/ That also has links to side-by-side photos to compare shapes and to "squishy-ness" charts.

Using what you know about your body and in your case, your previous experience with other cups, figure out what you think will fit and suit you, then go with your gut from there.

Since you just ordered a large Fleur, put aside your "buyer's remorse" and stop second guessing your purchase. Time will tell. Don't buy another cup based on "what if I don't like it?" What if you do???
itzwibble on July 29th, 2012 04:29 pm (UTC)
Thanks. You are right. My biggest concern is avoiding leaks. Everything else is manageable.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on July 29th, 2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
some great tricks for popping open: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html
good luck! sounds like a large fleurcup will be a good option.
itzwibble on July 29th, 2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the responses. My biggest concern is leaking. Any tips to try would be much appreciated. I would like not to have to empty very often. TIA
m03m on July 29th, 2012 04:55 pm (UTC)
Who knows, it may work perfectly for you... I can't think of any tips to give you when you may not need any!
juliiie87juliiie87 on July 29th, 2012 06:33 pm (UTC)
If a cup is fully open and encircling your cervix, it shouldn't leak, unless your pc muscles are abnormally weak and you're body doesn't form a seal around the cup. In your case, learning to relax these is probably all you'll need to make it work. People say the Fleurcup is fairly easy to pop open for a soft cup. You should be fine !
itzwibble on July 29th, 2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
I asked my obgyn and midwife about this and they say I have excellent vaginal pc muscle tone. Would a MeLuna Classic have been a better choice? What are the benefits of owning two cups? I never saw the point but am considering it. Idk if it makes any difference but I have a high cervix and narrow vaginal canal. I know I dont want a very firm cup again after the lunette cause pain while I was wearing it.

Edited at 2012-07-29 10:39 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on July 30th, 2012 10:27 am (UTC)
I never understood what a narrow vaginal canal means, since the vagina is normally closed onto itself anyway, but it can expand for sex and babies and stuff, when one is relaxed. It's mostly a function of how you hold your muscles, really. High cervix : you'll like a long cup, or a good stem, which the Fleurcup has.

I also don't think a cup would leak because it's too wide, quite the opposite actually, unless your cervix is in an unusual spot (on one side) and the cup is somehow missing it, or doesn't unfold properly, but those are 2 things you should be able to rule out by checking with a finger. In all fairness, if your vaginal muscles are super strong, you might be fine with a slightly narrower long cup, such as Cuplee/Miacup/Natural Mamma /large Meluna. But don't buy it yet, it's safer to learn from what you liked/disliked in your Fleurcup.
I assume you've checked the stiffness chart ? ('cause those are all fairly soft) http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/

Finally, having two cups is probably unecessary, some people get several in search for their goldilocks cup, some people like to switch when they can't rinse it or keep one in their car. Which is unecessary since you could always carry the one in your purse and be good to go. But hey, personnal preference.
itzwibble on July 30th, 2012 12:21 pm (UTC)
Yes I Have looked at the stiffness charts. I am definitely going to wait to and try to make my Fleurcup work. Thanks! I will update in two weeks when AF shows.
teacupcake89 on July 30th, 2012 11:48 am (UTC)
the Meluna Classics are not really much softer than the large Lunettes so.....those with very strong muscles who do lots of pilates/yoga etc tend to use firmer cups bc their muscles sometimes 'crush' softer cups. BUT, if you prefer a softer cup then that's fine! firmer cups can feel more uncomfortable and sometimes press on the bladder.

some have two cups for lighter/heavier flow days or days when their cervix is lower than the rest.

stop worrying and just get to grips with your fleurcup. get through the learning curve (if you have one that is!) and after several cycles then decide if you need a different cup (after 3 or so months you'll know whether any problems are to so with your technique or not)

you'll be fine! :) agreeing with all the fab comments here! :) RELAX :)
itzwibble on July 30th, 2012 12:19 pm (UTC)
Thanks for all the help. I spent a longggg time looking at comparison pix and feel much more confident. One last question: is there a way to keep my muscles from crushing the cup?
teacupcake89 on July 30th, 2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
:) whether you have strong/average/weaker pf muscles you need to relax them for insertion and removal.

I think it's something that will either happen or won't but RELAXING will help, don't stress about it!

if you're thinking it might happen, then your body will be feeling tense!

keep your jaw slack and mouth open when you insert (this helps to relax muscles down there!) good luck :)