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24 July 2012 @ 01:08 am
Hello! Not exactly a menstrual cup question, but I saw the tag and decided to ask here.

I'm a 20 year old virgin, but I am in a committed relationship and will probably end up losing my virginity within the next year or so. I am already on the pill (to regulate my period) and we have easy access to condoms, but I'm an extremely paranoid and worrisome person so I want to add another contraceptive method just to ease my mind, so I thought that a diaphragm sounded like a pretty good idea, given that it could also make period sex a bit easier. I've been trying to do some research online before my first GYN appointment, but I haven't been able to find much and I still have many questions. So...

What can I expect for my first fitting?
I would prefer one made of latex. Will I be able to choose the material my diaphragm is made of without it affecting the cost too much?
Will using the diaphragm on my period decrease its effectiveness?

And if anyone could link me to a decent resource on diaphragms, that would be much appreciated. I can't find any!

Thanks! <3
Goat Friends: valsefrolicnaked on July 24th, 2012 05:19 am (UTC)
When I was fitted (a few? 2-3?) years ago, this is what happened:
  1. The doctor, having a "fitting kit" of sample sizes, made an educated guess as to what size would fit me; he started with a middle size.

  2. It turned out to be too large, as evidenced by the fact that I flung a spring-loaded flying saucer out of my vagina and across the room.

  3. He went down to a smaller size; it fit. ("Fit" apparently means snug and secure but not painful -- and not a vag projectile waiting to happen.)
When I was fitted -- in the US -- the only commercially available (as in, still being manufactured and sold to pharmacies) diaphragm was made of silicone. Because of that, I was not able to choose a material. Availability circumstances can vary by country, but that was mine.

And: http://www.cervicalbarriers.org/
alpacalypse21 on July 24th, 2012 05:26 am (UTC)
"It turned out to be too large, as evidenced by the fact that I flung a spring-loaded flying saucer out of my vagina and across the room."
^ Most hilarious mental image involving a vagina. Ever.

But thank you very much for your answer. I'm disappointed that only silicone diaphragms are available in the US (I'm here too). I was hoping that using both latex condoms and diaphragms would make silicone-based lubes an option. *mumble mumble* Hopefully things have changed since your fitting. *fingers crossed*
bicyclegasolinebicyclegasoline on July 24th, 2012 07:18 am (UTC)
I'm UK based and got fitted for a diaphragm a couple of years ago.

Like frolicnaked, the dr had different sizes and just tried them to see which "fit" right and was comfortable for me. However, she then gave me a sample which I could go home and try.

Then I went to get a prscription for it... And it turned out they weren't even available any more. I am sure I could have gone back to the dr and found another way to access one, but we hadn't really enjoyed using it so just gave up.

I'm not sure if it's still active, but this community on Yahoo groups used be to a very good place for diaphragm users:

Good luck!
a DJ who lived in seclusionknittinggoddess on July 24th, 2012 02:46 pm (UTC)
Tantus sex toys says that their silicone toys are safe for use with their silicone lube, so maybe other medical grade silicone is safe too?
alpacalypse21 on July 24th, 2012 04:13 pm (UTC)
Ooh, maybe? I hope so. My Mooncup is also medical-grade silicone. I've seen a lot of people on this forum advising against using silicone based lube with their silicone cups, but I'll ask my doctor. I did have some concerns about using a silicone lube and then having to put my cup in afterwards. I'll ask my doctor. Thanks!
mallt on July 24th, 2012 09:50 pm (UTC)
Is there any reason why you'd prefer to use a silicone lubricant? I used to use one but switched to a water based one because I bought a silicone toy (before I even knew about cups!) & I prefer it... much easier clean up! :)
alpacalypse21 on July 25th, 2012 01:02 am (UTC)
Haha well, being a virgin in all matters of the word, I can't speak from experience. However, I have heard that silicone lubes last longer and are super slick, as well as many pre-lubricated condoms are lubricated with silicone lube. I just want to keep my options open.
loveyourcuploveyourcup on July 24th, 2012 08:09 am (UTC)
I am myself a big fan of diaphragm, I used to have IUD but I dont want any foreign object in my insides anymore, well not that far up anyway. You do have to find out your size, if I remember right diameter goes more or less from 50mm to 90mm. My gynecologist wasnt sure how to measure but she came up with a 55mm so i bought that in silicone, the brand is "omniflex"

I bought it on a UK based website, they didn't ship outside so i got a friend in the UK to send it to me. in france or spain they were like 80€! i couldnt belive it, there it's not even 20.

Im really happy with it, i find it easy to use and so far...no babies :-)

Edited at 2012-07-24 08:09 am (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on July 24th, 2012 09:50 am (UTC)
Wow, it looks kinda cool, so is it as easy to use as cups ? Do you use spermicides in conjonction ? I'm scared about the pain of getting an IUD set, so this might be an option for when I'm sick of hormones, which is bound to happen sooner or later...
loveyourcuploveyourcup on July 24th, 2012 11:19 am (UTC)
I think it's fairly easy to put, just squeeze it, insert it face up and tuck it in upwards so it sits behind your pelvic bone, if you see the video from the instead softcup you'll see the animation.

I nearly fainted with I got my IUD in, I have friends who says they hardly felt a thing, I had to leave that day without it, they told me to come back next month and take a valium before. Still hurt :(

So the diaphragm is great, it's got its limitation, I do use spermicides when I'm in the ovulation phase. but to be honest i know I am quite fertile so I use all that and I tell my boyfriend to not put his stuff up there juuuust in case. Im quite sure it's safe, I just don't want to take a chance and have to face a very difficult life changing decision...

Edited at 2012-07-24 11:20 am (UTC)
ohletmeteluohletmetelu on July 24th, 2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
They are! I've successfully been using one for a little over a year and am VERY happy I choose to look into it when I did! You can see my post below for more info ;)
ohletmeteluohletmetelu on July 24th, 2012 07:19 pm (UTC)
Diaphragm user here!!
Hi there,

I switched to a diaphragm after issues with HBC (anxiety, weight gain, "not feeling myself", etc). There is a yahoo group dedicated to both diaphragms and cervical caps that is excellent! I got most of my info before getting fitted from them. You can do a google search for the group or try this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/adultconf?dest=%2Fgroup%2FDiaphragmsAndCaps%2F You'll have to sign up for a yahoo account and request to join. They have a video on a fitting along with LOTS of great information. I was lucky to have already had an ob/gyn that had experience AND was willing to fit me. It was difficult to find a pharmacy that knew they could fill a Rx for one though. The group helped me by providing me with the code that the pharmacy would need to order it! I mention all of this because access to both a fitter and a pharmacy that knows they can order one are common issues in the group!

As far my personal experience.. It has been great! I use the "D" is conjunction with keeping track of my cervical fluid and other 'fertility signs' that I learned from the AMAZING book "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" (anyone with a uterus should read that book, imo). I also use a natural spermicide "Contragel" that I buy from Canada. Nonoxyl 9 spermicide (only one sold in USA) is pretty strong "chemical-laden" stuff (that causes irritation) so I won't / don't use that. I thought that inserting the D before intercourse would "kill the mood" or interrupt things in some way (like some say condoms can) but you can actually insert it way before you plan to get it on ;) The most important things are finding an experienced fitter, using it consistently (if it becomes your sole method) and to always keep it in 6 hours after intercourse!

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions! Like I said, check out the yahoo group and read through all the files.. You'll definitely get all the info you're looking for and if something isn't in the files you can always ask me or the group :)

Good luck!!!

who9who9 on July 24th, 2012 07:58 pm (UTC)
My first "menstrual cup" was my diaphragm. For sex it was used with spermicide. For "just in case" days, or period days it was used as is. Insertion / removal is a little different than it is for a real menstrual cup.

It is important to get the fit checked; as I got older the diaphragm size increased a little. My diaphragms were latex (USA), I don't remember the brand. Fittings involved sending the diaphragm "sproinging" across the fitting room, a good fitter has a good sense of humor about this. If your OB/GYN place is clueless about diaphragms and how to fit them, find an OB/GYN with experience in this area. This is not new technology!!!

I tried the pill and did extremely poorly with the side effects. Eventually my sex partner learned the diaphragm / spermicide thing and diaphragm maintenance became "our shared" responsibility. Unintended pregnancy can happen with an improperly used or fitted diaphragm. In my experience the diaphragm was an effective contraceptive. I think using it with the same partner helped a lot in this regard.

wireni on July 27th, 2012 07:28 am (UTC)
I used a diaphragm for some years, some years ago. The gynaecologist I went to first did not know anything about it! But he did not admit! He did not even have a real fitting set there. But what did I know? Luckily I did not get pregnant. Soon I went to another gynaecologist because I moved, and she only shook her head, because the one I had was way too small! The diaphragm was from latex, brand "ortho", I lived in Germany. We switched to condoms, because I had recurring yeast infections. Unfortunately, because I liked the diaphragm, and my boyfriend liked it, too. Except occassional logistic problems when I was at the Uni during the time window that I had to take it out. Most "accidents" with barrier methods occurr not because people don't use them correctly, but because they don't use them at all! When they are so excited. I was surprised by myself, too. I think the main risk with the pill is if within a week of having sex it does not work because of diarrhea, or you HAVE to take antibiotics which make that the pill does not work. So it is a good idea to combine one of the barrier methods with the pill.
A diaphragm is easier to insert than a menstrual cup.