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First of all, I just wanted to thank those who responded to my last post regarding removal. Their tips helped a lot, but now I'm realizing the main issue that I'm facing with my menstrual cup.

I got my Mooncup size B based on the recommendation of a sex educator. It was the first brand that I had heard of and I did a little research on menstrual cups in general, but I think I went with the Mooncup because it felt more familiar to me. I should have considered that this sex educator was also having sex and using vibrators quite often, whereas I'm a virgin and the biggest thing I've ever had "up there" was a "regular" sized tampon. Insertion is no issue, but with removal my main problem is that darn ridge around the opening of the cup. It is so thick and stiff and I can't compress it enough when removing it to avoid some pain or at least some serious discomfort. I can comfortably and (somewhat) easily get the ridge just inside the opening (so that the majority of the cup is already out) and then it gets much more difficult. I feel like the cup is literally snagging on the opening... which can be pretty scary. It's also taking a long time to get it out.

I don't want to switch cups because a) I'm cheap and b) considering that the menstrual cup is supposed to be a means of "going green" I don't want my Mooncup to go to waste. I also really like it aside from removal issues.

Is there any chance that the ridge will soften or get squishier over time or that I could somehow make it squishier? Or is there any way I can deal with this ridge?

(On a side note, I would like to brag that I think I beat my best time for getting it out today and did so without freaking out for the first time! It's still quite a hassle though. :P )
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a DJ who lived in seclusionknittinggoddess on July 9th, 2012 06:42 am (UTC)
Two big tips: Breathe deeply during removal, and use lube. As you probably already know, tensing up in even the slightest will make your vagina tense up, making removal harder. It might be worth experimenting with positions to find one that allows you easier access. Also, as you get used to the sensation of the cup, you may find that it hurts less and you can compress it more. Adding a tiny bit of water-based lube might seem counterintuitive--it will make the cup harder to grip--but should help with the snagging on the opening. Maybe add it once you've gotten to the point where the cup is halfway out?

I was a virgin of all definitions when I started using my DivaCup, and found it tricky at first. But I soon became quite adept at insertion and removal, to the point where I could do it quickly and cleanly...in a public bathroom stall, with a full cup! Within six months, even!

DivaCups are supposed to be one of the firmer models, so in terms of flexibility we were probably in the same boat. The shape might be different though. I don't recall whether my cup has gotten softer, but wouldn't be surprised to learn that regular manipulation and cleaning has indeed softened the thing slightly. More likely, I've just gotten a lot better at it.

So, in the meantime: breathe deeply, and use lube. There is an end to the learning curve, I promise.
queensneak83 on July 9th, 2012 07:59 am (UTC)
I don't think it's so much that you're a virgin, but rather the MoonCup (and the MCUK) is a pretty stiff cup: it scores a 7.5 on the stiffness chart. As you said, insertion is much easier because you can control it as it goes in, but extraction is trickier because there is less room to maneuver.

There are ways to make a soft cup temporarily more rigid for insertion, but I'm not sure there is a way to make a stiff cup temporarily more pliable. People run a soft cup under cold water for about ten seconds to make it stiffer for insertion, so maybe you can try rinsing your MoonCup with warm/hot water? I'm not sure how much that would help, though, and please take care not to scald yourself. ;D

I can totally understand not wanting your cup to go to waste, which is why we have the mc-sales community: you can sell your MoonCup if you should ever decide that it's simply too stiff for comfort. That way someone else gets to try it for cheap, and you can use the fund to purchase a softer cup. Win-win, really.
Ashatenlegspider on July 9th, 2012 09:00 am (UTC)
Are you walking it out? That is - tilt one side then the other as you remove it, so you don't have the whole rim coming out at once. This is what I settled on when I was learning to use a Mooncup, though I wasn't a virgin.

You could have a learning curve with any cup so it's good to stick with it, and you sound like you're dealing with it fine. The only thing is that if you get anxious about removing it you could get into a cycle of worry-tense-pain-worry. If you think that's happening it might be worth switching. I wouldn't worry much about the waste since you seem to be pretty happy with cups already, so your next one could be the last menstrual product you buy for 10 years or more.
juliiie87juliiie87 on July 9th, 2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
"walking it out" or the "hot dog in a bun" method : slide one finger in next to the cup and press against it, your finger is the hot dog. This should create a loose c-fold you can hold together before you take it out. Also useful to break the seal in my experience. There's been a post recently where someone mentionned getting two finger in on one side (under the cup I think) and pressing down with your thumb, creating a punch down fold just before you take it out. I don't know about this one tbh.

Edited at 2012-07-09 06:49 pm (UTC)
m03m on July 9th, 2012 08:50 pm (UTC)
getting two finger in on one side (under the cup I think) and pressing down with your thumb
... also known to some as the 'I got your nose' method. :-)
alpacalypse21 on July 9th, 2012 09:09 pm (UTC)
I am... or at least I'm trying to. I'm also using the "hot dog" method, but this requires mushing the cup into a particular shape when the cup really wants to pop open. But once I do get a good, firm grasp on it, it helps tremendously, but it still takes a lot of work.

Still totally worth it though. :)
nuclear_9anuclear_9a on July 10th, 2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
I'm on my 3rd cycle with my Diva Cup, and I was having a similar issue...the rim of my cup would suddenly catch, then snap out of my vagina. not nice! I definately find that folding it, or squishing it together as the rim gets close to the outside world gives me more control and keeps the snagging to a minimum. I squat also, which cuts down on the moment of panic when I can't get ahold of it right away otherwise. Squatting with your knees apart will also open things up, which should also help.