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raindropsie
28 June 2012 @ 06:19 pm
I bought my first menstrual cup, a Divacup (the smaller model I think), back in 2006 and I am still using it today. I'm thinking about getting a new cup though, but the problem is there is so much more choice! When I bought mine there was only the Keeper, Mooncup (UK), Divacup, (possibly Lunette) and the Instead disposables. As a guide, I'll tell you what is currently bugging me about my DivaCup:

- Dirty holes - can't get them clean anymore!
- Slightly dirty wording
- Slightly dirty stem

- Short stem! I can't remember when, could have been about after 4-5 years of continual pinching with my nails (for removal), it broke and was shortened. I've been able to work with the short stem, it just makes it a little harder sometimes..

- Slight discolouration, although sitting it on the shelf in the sun makes a big difference. I have never tried boiling it.

- Leaking.
(perhaps this is to do with insertion method/suction issues... but I'm really not sure)
-- Bigger leaking. This mostly occurs during the first 2-3 days when my period is the heaviest, and most commonly happens right after rising out of bed. Or it happens in the middle of the first/second night of my period if I haven't woken myself up to change.
--- Because of the above, having to wake myself up in the middle of the night for the first one-two days. I had to do this back when I was wearing pads, so annoying!
-- Smaller leaking. I think it happens at other times occasionally too but I don't really notice it because 1) I only have black underwear now 2) it's only a little bit so doesn't pose a threat to staining pants etc. I would like to feel I could wear lighter colours during the middle-tail end of my period without worries.

- Trouble popping open at times. Pretty sure I use the 7-fold.

My body:
I think I must have either a long or wide/loose vaginal canal because my bf can f*** me with the cup in without feeling it at times... (but maybe my bf is small, lol). My cervix seems average I think, at least it's not right near the entrance anyway!

My period:
roughly 7 days
light/medium for the first few hours
heaviest after first few hours to 1-2 days. best to change every 4-5 hours at this most annoying stage.
medium for half a day
light for the rest

I remember I came on here a few years ago, when I think cups such as the Lunnette, MeLuna, LadyCup, MiaCup, Femme were fairly new. I remember thinking about getting the Lunette because it had larger holes at that stage and was maybe a bit firmer? (Edit: I just read http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2568357.html#cutid1, so perhaps for leaking and popping I should consider a softer cup?) However, now there are many more options and even the Australian made Juju. I'm Aussie, though I'm looking for quality (my goldilocks cup as they say), not area of make.

I haven't done this in so long. What sizes, brands, features would you recommend? Any good posts to re-direct me to? There is so much to find, sometimes I feel it's hard to find the good information.

Thanks for reading this far!

Melinda
 
 
Current Location: Australia
Current Mood: overwhelmed with choice
 
moonhoney925 on June 28th, 2012 09:13 am (UTC)
Hi Melinda,

I'm an Aussie too (Melbourne). Your period sounds just like mine and I have a high cervix as well. Although I only discovered cups in January this year.

I have 2 cups- a large Lunette and large Fleurcup. I bought those because I needed something with a high capacity for the first two days. I also wanted something that was easy to clean and had a tab stem (rules out Diva). I was not sure about stiffness so I bought both at really good prices- less than $50.00 and that includes postage.

The Fleurcup is quite squishy and I find it easier and less painful to insert. The Lunette is one of the stiffest cups available but I find it easier and less painful for removal.

Obviously as we're Australian, purchasing a Juju would be preferable but they are quite expensive (around $70.00) and from what I've read on this forum a little difficult to remove.

In regards to the discolouration of your Diva cup a few users soak their cups in a weak solution of hydrogen peroxide- the stuff that you can purchase at Woolies or Coles.

Hope this helps :)
raindropsieraindropsie on June 28th, 2012 09:22 am (UTC)
Ah, well no wonder you were able to reply so quickly. Everyone else is probably sleeping.

I haven't frequented this site in a while... from my understanding the larger cups are for those who've had kids. Are people using them otherwise? I bought my cup when I was still a virgin, so was NOT keen on trying a larger size, but I would consider trying a large if it's worked for others.

I'm not sure if you saw my edit either, but it seems in terms of leaking I should perhaps go for a softer cup?

Not so sure about the Juju, the price and also it doesn't seem like you can get any grip from that stem!

I have tried rubbing alcohol, but I should give hp a go. I still think something with slightly larger holes would help though!

Thanks!
m03m on June 28th, 2012 03:01 pm (UTC)
Many users who have never been pregnant find that large size cups work well for them. Most companies suggest large cups for those who are over 25 or 30 (depending on brand) and/or have been pregnant.

So no, they're definitely not just for those who have had kids. I haven't, I'm 44, and my cup of choice is a large Fleurcup.
raindropsieraindropsie on June 28th, 2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
I haven't had kids and I'm only 23. But I still think I'll try a larger cup :)
moonhoney925 on June 28th, 2012 10:11 am (UTC)
This what I have learned from this site:

1.) Most companies offer two sizes-
Small: for people below 30 and/or who have never given birth
Large: for people over 30 and/or have given birth

In most cases it seems correct but there are definitely exceptions e.g Teresa from Feminine Wear (UK based cup and cloth pad seller) is over 40 and has 4 kids but favours the smaller cups.

2.)Squishy cups get crushed if you have strong pelvic floor muscles.

3.) Many younger (below 25) users favour the squishy cups.

4.) Melissa (who created this forum) has plenty of videos on YouTube showcasing most of the cups. These should give you a better idea.

With the Juju I think the idea is to use the butterfly motifs as grips. Would be useless for me, I need the stem.

I think probably give the larger cup a go since your period is heavy for the first couple of days. You don't want to keep emptying every 3 hours.



Edited at 2012-06-28 10:13 am (UTC)
teacupcake89 on June 28th, 2012 10:41 am (UTC)
have you tried finding your cervix whilst on your period?
as most cervixes move (often lower down) during your period, it may take up some cup capacity on its lowest days, which could be why your diva is leaking even if it's not very full.

I'm 23 (no kids) and currently use a small Lunette, but on days when my cervix is low enough to make my Lunette uncomfortable/decrease capacity I use a large Fleurcup.
Because it's so soft the extra width doesn't matter/hurt, but lets it sit around my cervix rather than under it. it's high capacity means that there's plenty of space even on lower cervix days! :) also the tab stem and no writing are easy to clean!

lots of virgins successfully use 'large' sized/wide cups just as much as those with children can still wear their 'small' sized cup. the cup website size guidelines are just that: 'guidelines'.
It's really a combination of flow, cervix height and pelvic floor muscles. :) Lunette has a good table on which size to choose based on these factors: http://www.lunette.com/index.php?id=9

there's a good FAQ post on cups popping open by Serpent in the community FAQ :)

for discolouration: you could try soaking/cleaning in water with Milton tablets, some baking soda with a toothbrush or some rubbing alcohol.

here's a link to the photo comparison library: might be worth comparing your Diva to the other brands and get a gist of how long you would like it to be etc... :)(not all the newer brands are in all the albums so look at the latest few as well as the Diva album) http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library

I hope some of this helps! :)
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 28th, 2012 12:51 pm (UTC)
Definitely go for a larger size, to deal with your flow more easily, especially at night, it sounds like you could accomodate one easily. About your leaks : well the bigger leaks might have been overflow, especially at night or if your cervix was hanging lower and possibly stealing some capacity inside the cup. Another reason for getting more capacity.

Stiffness : it's really up to personnal preference, like how strong are your PC muscles, if you're very athletic or very sensitive. Use the stiffness chart here to get an idea how they all compare to your Diva :

http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/

Have a look at the bottom of the size charts for the longer cups : if you can handle the Diva and even have trouble reaching the stem sometimes, you should be fine with any cups, but the longer the better. No cup is longer than the Diva really, but some have longer stems, which makes them longer in total so that might help you ! http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/

And compare total length from the pictures teacupcake89 linked above. Good luck in your research !
kitsunenomizukitsunenomizu on June 28th, 2012 01:23 pm (UTC)
I am going to be 25 next week, no kids not a virgin. All of the cups I use are large, except my small diva which I keep as a spare. It is a devil to get out. My favorite so far is my lunette which is stiff, although I own squishy and stiff cups alike, preferring stiff as they are easier to open and easier to remove and also strangely more comfortable inserting. For some reason now that I think about it, softer cups are slower and can be a little painful if it doesn't go right in where I need it to and catches on the way.
raindropsieraindropsie on June 28th, 2012 02:13 pm (UTC)
Well it seems like the large Fleurcup (squishier) or large Lunette (firmer) are my best bets. I'm just not sure if I should go squishier or firmer now... I have no idea what strength or lack there of my PC muscles are.

My reasons for the large Fleurcup:
- It seems it may have a slightly larger capacity
- it looks cheaper
- after reading heatha_featha28's thread in the faqs, "The Morning Flood" could potentially be controlled by a squishier cup.

My reasons for the large Lunette:
- from reading the leakage sections, my leakage problems could also be solved by a firmer cup!
- can buy locally
- easier popping

I think I'm leaning in favour of the Fleurcup. More because of slightly increased capacity AND the squishiness may prevent leakage.
raindropsieraindropsie on June 28th, 2012 02:16 pm (UTC)
And if the Fleurcup doesn't work, then hopefully the Lunette will and I'll have enough cups to last me a lifetime. Only reason I'm being so picky is because of ecological concerns...
ohletmeteluohletmetelu on June 28th, 2012 03:17 pm (UTC)
My experience
I have a high cervix and really love my large Fleurcup. I also like my large and small Divas though! I tried the large Lunette but quickly re-sold it because I found out my bladder is really sensitive and it seemed like the firmer Lunette was causing extra cramps. The Lunette was very easy to insert and remove though which was awesome. My Fleurcup needs some coaxing/extra time to get it into place just right . This is just my experience though.. We're all very different! Weigh the pros/cons and then decide!! Overall they are both great cups.. You just need to decide what your preference for squishiness is. You should also give yourself a few cycles to get through the learning curve of a new cup ;) Good luck!
raindropsieraindropsie on June 28th, 2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
Re: My experience
I don't really check out my cervix, but I did so last night (4th day of period) and my finger went in about 2 inches/5 cm. Don't know if this is considered high, but I'm sure it isn't considered low. Not sure about other times during my period though, which seems like it's important to know - especially for those heavier days of mine. Might have to make my decision after my next period!
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 29th, 2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
Re: My experience
I wouldn't worry much about it if you're thinking of getting a Fleurcup, because people with lower cervices are happy wiht it as well. It's actually your best bet in case your cervix gets lower, because of the bell-shaped bottom provinding more capacity than points cups such as Lunette.
teacupcake89 on June 29th, 2012 04:03 pm (UTC)
if it helps you can always sell the cups you don't want/use anymore at http://mc-sales.livejournal.com/ :)