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20 June 2012 @ 12:55 am
I have a few questions about my small Lunette & using it.
How far in does it need to be? Is it like a tampon, but u leave the stem out or no?
I had struggled two days with getting it in until I finally got it up to the stem by lying on my back with my legs spread around a mirror on the wall. I assumed that was high enough and got up to try and get it to open. I was so nervous anticipating the pain of it popping.open (because my first attempt it popped open with half the rim in and hurt like hell). I tried twisting it, which I later read isn't necessary. I tried running my finger around it, but I didn't see how that was doing anything but running my finger around it. Trying to twist it was excrutiating and I "ow"ed the whole time trying to and then slowly trying to get it out. When I took it out though, I noticed there was a little bit of blood in the cup. Is it necessary to fully open the cup?

At this point, I almost hate the cup. It seemed so wonderful reading about it but it's been physically such a pain. Is it always going to take 30 minutes and lying down? It's not going to work out if I need to lie down on a public bathroom floor and deal with this cup. It's so frustrating because I just want it to work. I'm 16 and a virgin and my vagina still hurts like hell, even with a tampon. I gave up because I figured I'd only further irritate my vagina to keep trying. Even insterting a tampon stings slightly now.
I think I'll wait until next month, but this whole situation is stressful. Is it ever going to work?
Does anyone have advice?
Thank you :)
teacupcake89 on June 20th, 2012 11:28 am (UTC)
don't get disheartened!! you've almost got it!

most people have almost all the cup including the stem inside them, and trim the stem if it pokes or is uncomfortable. I would try to insert it all the way in for now, and then trim the stem if you need to, the stem is like an internal tampon string, it shouldn't be dangling out! :)

I usually insert as far as I can (everything inside) then gently let go so it opens.
Running your finger around the cup is simply so you can check it it fully open.
It DOES need to be 'fully open' though otherwise it won't be able to collect anything! however, not everyone is 'o' shaped inside, it may feel more oval shaped once opened, which is just your muscles and body pressing the cup.

you need to let air into the cup for it to open: try pressing your vaginal wall away from the cup so air whooshes over it. different folds can also affect how it opens up.
If it feels open, then you don't 'need' to twist or pull it. I would just insert and let go (once it's inside enough) and leave it for a while, you'll soon know whether it's open/it correctly! :)

for my first 2 cycles it did take me 10-30 mins for insertion/removal, I had to lie down and use lots of lube. Now 3-4 months on: it takes less than 5 mins to insert or remove, lube not essential and I can use it in the bathroom/public loos!!

just like anything new it's all a matter of practice makes perfect and the learning curve!

I liken my experience to when I first started wearing contact lenses at 13: it would take me 30 minutes just to get them in, with a mirror! these seems almost impossible now as it takes me less than a minute and I never need a mirror!

You CAN do it, it just takes time, patience, practice and relaxation! :)
abbywangsterful on June 20th, 2012 05:27 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much! This is definitely motivating :)
Thank you for the advice and info. I'm going to keep trying :)
teacupcake89 on June 21st, 2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
you're very welcome :) stay positive: you'll be giving advice yourself in a few months :D
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 20th, 2012 01:13 pm (UTC)
First, relax and take a break from the cup if you hate it. Come back to it when your body's healed and your head's in a better place. There are many reasons to experience pain in that area, even when you're not a virgin anymore, and the first of them is stress. It's likely that you were unvolontarily clenching the muscles around your opening, basically your body was saying "nope, you're not going in!". Fortunately, you can learn to relax and keep it open by relaxing the rest of your body (like after a bath ?) and bearing down a little, as if to have a bm or a pee, but not quite. The second reason is lubrication. You need something (water, lube, spit, period blood) to ease the cup in. Be careful that using a tampon right before trying will dry you out.

I think part of your discouragment is misunderstanding and stress and fear you'll hurt yourself. It's completely understandable because it's all new for you. It really doesn't have to be so complicated though. The main reason I support lying down for insertion (in the beginning only, while you're still getting comfortable with the cup. This how I started and now I can do it on the toilet just fine !) is because it helps with the cup popping open. It doesn't have to be a 2 step process ! After you get used to it, you should be able to have it pop open in a matter of seconds. Basically, what your cup needs to pop open is space and air. Which is the same thing, right ? the cup ain't getting that if your vagina is clenching around it.

Twisting it is just the not-so-genius idea the Diva company came up with, and honestly, no one bothers with that. Running your finger around the rim basically serves as a way to check whether or not the cup has unfolded, by feeling it. BUT it has the added benefit of pushing the vaginals walls away so air can reach the top of the cup and inflate it like a balloon. Ok, don't worry, not quite, but that's the idea.

Some people do leave the Lunette's stem hanging out, but basically, a cup will sit wherever it pleases, and that's usually as high as your body will let it go. It's not really up to you to decide where it sits. If it happens that you have a short vagina and the cup won't ride much higher, you're free to cut off the stem, if it bothers you. Personnally, I've cut my stem so that it's 1 cm (half an inch) inside of me. You don't need to insert it as far as it'll go, the cup can go there on its own, you just need to make sure it's past your pubic bone and open. You know the firm spot above your entrance ? That's it. don't run the cup into it, aim it horizontally towards you back bone.

Don't over stress yourself, take it slow, listen to your body, you'll get it eventually !

Edited at 2012-06-20 01:17 pm (UTC)
abbywangsterful on June 20th, 2012 05:34 pm (UTC)
Thank you very much! :) I think I'll wait until my next period before trying again.
Yeah, I think I was pointing back when I got it in, then I shifted up and the reason I'd get stuck half-way in is I was hitting the pubic bone.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on June 20th, 2012 04:03 pm (UTC)
If you're afraid it will hurt, then it will because you will involuntarily clench your muscles. Put your cup away until you are more comfortable (both mentally and physically) with inserting things for function or pleasure into your vagina.

If you haven't already, read this: http://www.menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/1243131.html
Arrow_Brightarrow_bright on June 20th, 2012 04:22 pm (UTC)
You've got it in! That's half the battle! What the others have already said is good advice. If you're having trouble with it popping open, you can also try different folds, if you haven't already (video of folds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6L-POE-b0). You can also take a look on her other videos. She has one on insertion that I found helpful starting out.

The method that works best for me with my Lunette is the C-fold. I fold it in half, aligning the holes so that two are in the middle, and I insert it with the crease on the bottom. I let go when the body of the cup is in (and some of the stem is still sticking out--sometimes a bit of the cup is sticking out). I find that this helps it open better. At this point I feel around the cup to make sure it's open. Then I push the cup up until almost or all the stem is in. For the first couple of days, it sticks out maybe a centimeter. After that, it's inside a centimeter or two. You might also want to try flattening the small of your back so that your pelvis area is pointing a tad bit forwards, if you're not already. I find that it helps with insertion on the toilet and on my back.
abbywangsterful on June 20th, 2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
Awesome! Thank you so much.
I used the C-fold but I didn't pay attention to the holes.