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17 June 2012 @ 12:46 pm
So after this post earlier (http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2892929.html) about meluna cups having a canadian website and being half off, I am ordering two different cups. I have questions about the size though, and am curious to know what others think. 

I have a very short vagina, and low riding cervix (I can insert my finger to the second knuckle and feel my cervix). I am almost 29 and have never given birth.  I am currently using a small Divacup turned inside out with the stem cut entirely off. I have a light-medium flow (my cup is NEVER full, even when I go 12-18 hrs without emptying it), and have no issues with insertion or anything. 

I am thinking about getting a Pink Meluna soft cup in size Medium, and a purple classic cup in size medium.  Am I correct in thinking that a Medium size would be good? Or should I go for the small one?  The guide on this website (http://mommaof3-littlebits.blogspot.ca/2011/12/meluna-menstrual-cups.html) says that a medium should be appropriate for my flow, but not my age. The capacity of the small though is more in line with what I need. 

Also, since the softcup is so soft, do you think it will be a large trial and error period/learning curve to learn the softer cup? Will I need a stem/ball/ring to remove it since it is softer, or will the basic with grips be enough?

Thanks for any advice :)
 
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 17th, 2012 05:14 pm (UTC)
It's hard to say really, because for one I don't know how your two knuckles compare to the 48 mm of the Meluna... If I were you, I'd measure both your fingers and your Diva inside out just to have an idea. And regarding capacity... it's fine to have extra capacity, it's actually very convenient to remove without spilling ! Also, did you look for your cervix while being on your period ? because it's position may change over a cycle.

Regardless, it's ok to have a cup that's pretty much the length of your vagina and beyond : I believe my vagina to be around 55 mm at the beginning of my period, and I can still squeeze in 53 mm of a cup and about 1 cm that's left of the stem (I wouldn't go over that though).

You'll probably be fine with a basic, but usually those are recommended to experienced cup users. Grip rings are definitely enough, the stem or ball will actually only help you to locate the bottom of the cup. Just for that, you could get a ball if you wish.

There's almost always some kind of learning curve with a new cup and truth is yes, softer cups need your mindful help to unfold. I wouldn't consider it bad though, it's only unsettling for people who except their cup to spring right open as soon as they let go - people who are used to firm cups or reluctant to poke around. Wheter you *need* a firmer cup is a matter of how strong and tight your pelvic floor muscles are, like if you are very athletic, and your age has little to do with the state of your vagina and surrounding tissues.
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 17th, 2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
And if you're determined to get two cups anyway, why not get one medium soft and one small classic ? just a though.
Stef: Doctor Who\\Rory & Amymorningapproach on June 17th, 2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
I am thinking about it :)
juliiie87juliiie87 on June 17th, 2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
I actually agree with serpent, especially that it's better to get one at a time and see from there, since you only *need* one anyway. Also that the mini medium (45x45) could be an option for you, in place of the small maybe ? It'll most likely sit higher. Fyi, the old shape is supposed to be easier to pop open. The "new" medium has more capacity though.
Serpentserpent_849 on June 17th, 2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
I think it's better to get cups one at a time. You'll know better what you need.
Medium, soft and classic are all just names. If you decided to get a meluna because of the price, I recommend at least looking at the size charts and deciding what you would get if they all had the same price. Then see which meluna size comes closest.

Because of your age and low cervix I'd suggest getting a wide cup, like a new large or an old medium (the 45x45 one). this way it'll sit deeper around your cervix.
If you can remove your inside-out diva, I'm sure you can also use a stemless cup. I didn't run into difficulties due to the softness. I mean I did but they were all about popping open http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#cutid1
It never hurts to just get a classic stem though. You can trim or cut it off completely as needed.
Stefmorningapproach on June 17th, 2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
I have looked at the size charts - they are both a lot smaller than the diva cup, which I am excited about. I am going to go stemless for the medium, and a ball stem for the small.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on June 17th, 2012 09:19 pm (UTC)
while there are people who use "small" cups even at 35, i'm afraid it would be too likely that you'd need to replace it soon. at the very least, i don't recommend going for anything narrower than the diva. the large is also much smaller than the diva.
are you satisfied with the length of your inside-out diva? the large meluna has about the same dimensions.
Stefmorningapproach on June 17th, 2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
hmm, fair points! Yeah, I am satisfied with the dimensions of the inside out. I'll look into the medium or large :)
karenoh on June 17th, 2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
For what it's worth, I switched from the small Diva to a medium meluna.

My DivaCup rarely filled, and I've found the medium meluna to be a great size for me.

I ordered a medium meluna pink soft cup with ball stem, and they sent me a green classic medium with tab stem.

I LOVE the ball stem: I can't recommend it highly enough.

However, due to the trial and error/learning curve period with the soft cup, I wish I had ordered a medium CLASSIC meluna with the ball stem: that would be my ideal cup.

The medium meluna classic is already MUCH more comfortable than my DivaCup. I still often have difficult getting the soft meluna to pup open, but I highly recommend the ball stem.
chamekke: cha_hearnoevil_geishachamekke on June 18th, 2012 06:13 am (UTC)
A couple of people have mentioned that you might want to consider the shorter/wider 'old' Meluna, so I just thought I'd add that on the original Meluna website (http://meluna.eu), that model is now called the MINI Meluna. It's available in both Classic and Soft versions. However, the new Meluna Canada site isn't currently offering the MINI cups at all... so if you want to get one from the Canadian site (where the prices are cheaper), then you'll be looking exclusively at the new model of cup for now.

For what it's worth, I've got a short vagina/low cervix, and a light-to-medium flow, and the medium MINI Meluna (with ring, the stem that adds the most length) has been perfect for me. However, I've also used the new/standard Meluna Classic medium (basic, i.e. no stem), and it's excellent too. Its dimensions are close enough to the MINI-medium-with-ring that it works just as well for me.

Re: softness, I found that the new Meluna Classic is softer than the MINI Meluna cups (both Classic and Soft), so you may find that the classic cup in the new model is soft enough for you. The rim is definitely a bit less stiff than the MINI's, so as a result it takes bit more effort to open, but not much more! Even at that, the new Classic is still firmer than the Diva, so if you'd like to approximate the softness of your current cup, maybe the Meluna Soft will be a better bet. (I've got no experience of the new Meluna Soft, so I'm not sure how much harder it would be to open than the Meluna Classic. Melissa's stiffness comparison chart ranks the Meluna Soft as squishier than the Diva.)

The Meluna website does say that 'basic' is best for someone with a bit of experience, but the grip rings are easy enough to grasp, certainly MUCH easier than an inside-out Diva (which I've tried too!), so I really think you would have no problem with that. (I did a spot of measuring, and the new Meluna Classic medium basic is maybe 2mm shorter than the Diva-turned-inside-out, and its diameter is ~3mm smaller than the Diva #1.)

Lastly, I don't think the age guidelines are all that meaningful in and of themselves. I'm pushing 50, and according to the chart you linked to, I "should" get an XL cup even though I have a low cervix and a light-to-medium flow that has never more than half-filled my medium cups! The main thing IMO is the depth of your cervix when menstruating. Capacity is possibly a secondary concern if you have a heavy or unpredictable flow, otherwise normally it's less of an issue as you can always empty the cup as often as you like.