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03 June 2012 @ 06:11 pm
Hello everyone,

This is my first post, so I hope it's done correctly.

I got my first cup recently, a small Lunette, after much research and deliberation.  It works well for me but my cervix only just fits inside - the posterior part of my cervix doesn't quite fit in, but this doesn't cause much discomfort, much less than tampons which "bump" my cervix. 

I have a low cervix so need a short cup, wide enough to fit my cervix inside and with big enough capacity to handle a fairly heavy flow.  I have removed the stem of my Lunette as otherwise it sticks out. 

I want to get a second cup, to see if my cervix fits in better.  I am considering a Fleurcup or Yuuki because I want a soft cup to reduce the pressure on my bladder and interference with urination that I get with the small Lunette.  However, I am not sure which size - the larges put me off because I'm worried they will be too big and put pressure on my bladder, or be too long.  The Femmecup size seems attractive but its capacity is too small.  The small Fleurcup might have the same issue about not fitting my cervix in as the Lunette?!

I would really appreciate any advice.  I wanted to get both a small and large Fleurcup to try but the price is an issue, especially if they're not right for me. 
 
chamekke: cha_bamboo_with_leaveschamekke on June 3rd, 2012 07:03 am (UTC)
Looking at the size charts, the only cup that's shorter than the Lunette-with-stem AND wider at the rim is the medium MINI Meluna, which is 45mm long x 45mm wide. Note that these dimensions are for the stemless MINI Meluna Basic, which is the version that comes without any stem whatsoever (check the chart on the link to see how much length is added depending on the stem type). This cup comes in both 'soft' and 'classic' firmness.

This gives you most of what you want EXCEPT greater capacity. Unfortunately, the medium MINI has a capacity of 15-21 ml while your small Lunette is 20-25 ml (again, from the size chart: ranges reflect user reports vs. maximum capacity according to the manufacturer). The small Yuuki is reported at 19-25 ml and the small Fleurcup at 20-25, so, it doesn't sound as though you'd be ahead with those in terms of capacity?

OTOH I'm not sure if you'd be better off with a small Fleurcup in terms of dimensions since it's reported to have identical length (47mm) and width (41mm) to your small Lunette. And the small Yuuki, while fractionally wider at 42mm, is actually longer still at 49mm. Of course, their reported lengths presumably include the stem, and the chart doesn't say how long these cups are with their stems partly or entirely removed...

It's a tough one. Hopefully someone with personal experience of both the small Lunette and at least one of these other small cups will be able to give you some practical guidance. To me it sounds as though you may have to prioritize either capacity or cup length/width, but hopefully I'm wrong about that.

Also, you might like to know about mc_sales, an affiliated LJ comm where people sell cups (mostly unused or lightly used) below full price; there's also the occasional cup swap or trade. You can always check there to see if someone's offering a candidate you're interested in. If you get a cup and find it's not for you, you can sell it there, too. This makes the trial-and-error process a lot more affordable for many of us :-)

Edited at 2012-06-03 07:07 am (UTC)
m03m on June 3rd, 2012 08:20 am (UTC)
I don't think those lengths include the stem.
chamekke: cha_bamboo_with_leaveschamekke on June 3rd, 2012 08:39 am (UTC)
Ah, OK, thanks for that!

I do find the charts a bit confusing sometimes ;-)
m03m on June 3rd, 2012 08:20 am (UTC)
I don't think the large Fleurcup will give you problems. Since it sits further around the cervix, it works as shorter than it actually is; the rim is very thin and soft, and this makes it unlikely that it'll put too much pressure on your bladder.

Your idea of getting a small and large Fleurcup isn't a bad one, but the small might indeed give you the same problems as the small Lunette. Plus, you'll love the capacity of the large.
You may very well need to remove the stem, and possibly the grip rings too, but it's not hard. You can also wear it inside out without changing the shape or losing any capacity

The Yuuki isn't very short, and also not particularly soft.
moonhoney925 on June 3rd, 2012 09:22 am (UTC)
If you had problems with the size of the Lunette then the Fleurcup won't help you either.

I have a high cervix and Lunettes and Fleurcups suit me but I think that the Ladycups and mediums Melunas are suitable for those with low cervixes- just something I've learned from this forum.

Good luck:)
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on June 3rd, 2012 11:12 am (UTC)
my cervix is low too (like, EXTREMELY low) but fortunately i don't have a heavy flow.
a large fleurcup *should* be fine but some other cups to consider are large meluna and large juju, they are slightly shorter than the fleurcup and unlike it can be even shorter inside out. these are the ones i keep in mind in case my flow gets heavier.

here's what i have:
-a small lunette (can wear only inside out, shifts eventually)
-a large ladycup (HURTS right side out, fine inside out but not much capacity)
-a medium meluna now called mini, the 45x45 one, soft (fits best inside out)
-a small meluna soft, the 38x45 one (uncomfortable inside out but fine right side out..would be perfect if i could wear it inside out i guess)

i've also had a dry run with my mum's large green donna (she didn't want to have a dry run :D) and even it was fine inside out. Melissa also said a large yuuki inside out is about 50mm, however they're now stiff.

my first choice cups are the melunas, with a sliiight preference for the mini medium.

also, are you sure your issues with urination are caused by the stiffness? the small lunette is quite soft really, though the soft melunas are softer. when i get those issues, it's because the cup sticks out too much. i remove, pee, reinsert and it's fine next time :=)
have you tried your small lunette inside out btw? I still wear mine sometimes.

yeah, i'm afraid you might have the same issue with the small fleurcup:( it's even narrower than the small lunette. i considered getting one but then the new different shaped melunas came out. ah if only they changed the shape without changing the dimensions...the 45x45 would be just perfect.

thought i'd state it more explicitly: the shape is very important, more so than the width. definitely don't get a femmecup, the dimensions seem nice but it's narrow (hence the small capacity). on the other hand, my small meluna is THE narrowest cup (38 mm!!!) but i love it because of its shape.
with slightly bigger cups of the same shape (large meluna, fleurcup, probably even the new medium meluna) there's also the advantage that if your cervix sits in the cup, it doesn't reduce the capacity that much, because a lot of the capacity is in the bottom.

also, if you decide to get a large meluna, order it from the official site. they send sample cups with practically each order, so you're likely to get a cute little cup for your light days as well. a large meluna should also be fine for light days though :D

finally: don't choose the brand. choose the specific cup. "looks like a meluna will fit me, now which size to get?" is NOT the way to go.

Edited at 2012-06-03 11:34 am (UTC)
chamekke: cha_bamboo_with_leaveschamekke on June 3rd, 2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
also, if you decide to get a large meluna, order it from the official site. they send sample cups with practically each order

I ordered 2 cups from Meluna a couple of months ago and received no sample cup (which I'd really been hoping for!). I got curious and did some searching using the 'meluna' tag. I couldn't find any references to people receiving sample Meluna cups that weren't at least a few months old.

Do you know of anyone who's received a sample cup (or cups) with their order more recently? Any time in 2012, say? My impression is that Meluna may have stopped sending free samples.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on June 3rd, 2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
well, not everyone who gets a sample cup runs here to post about it :) most people already know about that. not all posts get tagged either (and have you checked the meluna soft tag as well? i suppose there might be more sample soft melunas, as they're a newer thing. it basically depends on what faulty cups they have - they don't produce them on purpose, you know :DDD i suppose nowadays you're somewhat more likely to get a sample of the new meluna sport than of an older kind, though it probably depends on what you order. i mean, if you're ordering a small meluna soft they'll probably think it's better to send nothing at all than to send an XL meluna sport :D especially as i don't think they approve of the sample cups being sold.

speaking of sales - there are SO many melunas for sale/recently sold in mc_sales that i really doubt all those people ordered several meluna cups. you may want to ask on the main page of the comm whether anyone got a sample meluna recently :)
chamekkechamekke on June 4th, 2012 02:13 am (UTC)
Good idea, I'll ask about it on the main page — although maybe not right away because I'm mindful of my weekly quota! Thanks ♥
sparklemooosparklemooo on June 3rd, 2012 02:56 pm (UTC)

unrelated to original poster - sorry - but I am overwhelmed by how much you all know about cups and stuff - it's amazing! I want to tell every menstruating person I know about this community because it's wonderful! I have learned sooo much! <3 :)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on June 3rd, 2012 03:57 pm (UTC)
I vote for either a large Fleur or a large Lady. Both are medium length and squishy soft.

You already have a "small" cup. Go for a "large" so you're not duplicating your efforts.

It's nice to have a couple of different cups. For example: One for heavy days, one for light.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on June 3rd, 2012 08:19 pm (UTC)
large lady has about the same capacity as a medium meluna mini while being, well, large.
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on June 3rd, 2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
The person that I bought a small Fleur cup from on the boards mentioned that she had a low cervix and the large Fleur ended up being her perfect cup. I have an average cervical height and also found that the small Lunette made me a little crampy. For what it's worth (I have light cycles and don't need capacity), my favorite cup is the LadyCup small. The small Meluna soft is hard for me to pop open. The small Fleur is OK, but I bought it with the stem and rings removed, and it's a bit tricky for me to get out!
m03m on June 3rd, 2012 08:30 pm (UTC)
I have a low cervix too, and the large Fleurcup is definitely right for me, too.
per5ephone on June 4th, 2012 05:52 am (UTC)
Wow, thank you all for your prompt advice.

I actually should have stated that I don't want to get a MeLuna because I want a silicone cup not that TPE or whatever those are made of.

Looks like a large Fleur is the best choice (Juju looks good but it's far too expensive for me unfortunately!!). I was just worried that it will squeeze my urethra/bladder being so wide, but hopefully it's soft enough not to? I'm sure my cervix will fit more comfortably in it.

Are the Fleur colours nice? I'm not sure how safe they are...
chamekke: cha_cockerelchamekke on June 4th, 2012 07:02 am (UTC)
I can't answer your Fleurcup questions ('cause I haven't tried one yet). Re the question of dyes, however, you might like to read these previous posts — including the comments:

This one from 2010 (mainly about the Lunette, but the comments go into the question of dyes and silicone cups in general)
A much longer one from 2011

FWIW, in their paragraph on safety, the Fleurcup FAQ says: "The colours used are also used in the medical sector."

And of course if you still have any hesitation after reading all of these, you can always just order the clear (and therefore dye-free) Fleurcup.
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on June 4th, 2012 12:24 pm (UTC)
TPE is not much different from silicone, it's also inert and all *_* germany actually has VERY strict standards for medical/baby products so there's nothing to worry about :)