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So I just emptied out my diva cup for the first time in this cycle and I'm so upset.



When I inserted it this morning around 11ish, it was at the bottom of my vagina like instructed in the pamphlet. I could feel the stem and made sure of this.

I went to go remove it just now and it wasn't there. I couldn't reach it because my cervix is so high but I finally managed and my hand was covered in blood when I finally managed to take it out. It took several tries to complete this. Then I tried to put it back in and it fell to the bottom of the toliet and I had to put my whole hand in there to get it out.

I'm sitting on my bed typing this from my phone crying right now because I have OCD and no matter how many times I wash my hands I can't get the feeling off. This was a huge trigger and I can't go through my whole period like this. There's no way this is the normal experience with diva cups.


I'm asking you all this:
1. How did it get that far in? I was laying down on my bed today reading, but wouldn't that happen if I were sleeping too?
2. How can I prevent this from happening again? I want to keep using the diva cup, but not if it results in this every time.

My cervix is very high up, and I only managed to locate it a few weeks ago while squatting in the shower and practically sticking my whole hand in there. I have one of the longest menstrual cups, I don't understand how this happened.


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Samvampgabby on May 22nd, 2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
I have a high cervix as well and the cup absolutely takes some practice. Breaking the seal at the cervix is very hard for me sometimes. I usually bear down and pull the cup down using my pointer finger and middle finger until it's almost out, then grab it with my pointer and thumb to get it the rest of the way out so I don't spill. It takes time to get the hang of it so I can't honestly say that the rest of your period won't be like that and I HATE to discourage you because once you get it, the cup is a fantastic thing but I'm trying to be honest. Good luck hun
full-on Monetjunemrc on May 22nd, 2012 11:32 pm (UTC)
I had a similar situation after my first day with a cup in. It was a meluna (super tiny) and it floated way up (my cervix is high too) and I couldn't get it down or Kegel it out. I became so distraught and panicked that the only way I could get it out was to go to a clinic. I was extremely embarrassed and stopped using the cup.
It's been my experience that the cup will float up, even though you insert it low. even my Fleurcup, which is big like the Diva, floated up and I had to pull it down by the stem. I guess it's just a suction issue. inserting it and pulling it out in the shower can help, especially if you feel you have to reach up high and be in awkward positions. you can rinse everything off immediately.
one way to break the suction and get the cup out is to squeeze the bottom, just above the stem. I had been trying to reach all the way up to the top to break the suction, which led to the same frustration you had, with my hand covered in blood and knowing I couldn't do that on a regular basis.
I think having had a lot of issues with my body contributed to my initial trouble with using a cup. take it slow with your cup, but keep trying. you'll be able to figure out less messy ways to remove it with practice.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on May 23rd, 2012 12:36 am (UTC)
Despite what the instructions say and illustrations show, a cup will ride where ever it darn well pleases -- and that is usually (O) around your cervix. However high your cervix is, that's where the rim will seat. Good thing you got a Diva because it is the longest of all the brands. Imagine if you'd gotten a short cup!?!?!

As the others have said, practice makes perfect with removal. Read some of the good advice in the replies to posts under the removal tags. It will probably take you several tries to figure out a way of removal that works best for you. Until then, don't despair. And if you're head's not in the right place, then put the cup away until you're in a better frame of mind. It's OK. Cups are patient. :o)
clover_elf_kinclover_elf_kin on May 23rd, 2012 01:04 am (UTC)
Can you sit on the edge of the tub, for example, for insertion/removal? Makes any drip cleanup easy, and no big deal if you drop it.

Best of luck!
Sal McGhostface Killahbeuk on May 23rd, 2012 01:39 am (UTC)
This kind of experience is a part of the learning curve for many of us. It might take a bit of practice, but you'll get better at insertion, removal and emptying. I second the suggestion that sitting on the edge of the tub might be a good thing to try. Another thing is learning how to bear down effectively to push the cup down and put it within reach. Important since you have a long vagina and high cervix.
fee_parisienne on May 23rd, 2012 02:02 am (UTC)
I probably can't answer your questions, really, except to say that a cup will sit where it wants to sit, and apparently on you that ends up being quite high.

However. It is also true that a lot of cup users have a hard time the first few times they try one, and still are very happy using menstrual cups once they've figured out what methods best suit their own anatomy when putting a cup in and taking it out. The average, as far as I can guess from the posts here, is that it typically takes 2-3 cycles to really get the hang of it and be comfortable using a cup.

Some people feel like everything's great right away, too, but please don't be too discouraged if you're not one of them!
Baby Bloodheartbabybloodheart on May 23rd, 2012 02:53 am (UTC)
Another comment to say - it can take practice. Cups can ride up a little high but they can be pushed back down with vaginal muscles to make grabbing them easy, just relax.

Maybe for this cycle leave the cup for now until you feel more positive about cup use, when you're ready to try the cup again try the first few times in the shower (if you feel comfortable doing so) as that may make removal easier for you to manage, no risk of dropping the cup down the toilet, no mess and easy clean-up.
mmehibou on May 23rd, 2012 03:57 am (UTC)
You and I started using our diva cups on the same day! We're like twins!

I'm sorry it triggered your OCD! My best friend has that, and I know how hard it is for her. My cervix is high too - I've never been able to touch it. This is the same thing I posted earlier today, but because of my cervix being high, I have had trouble retrieving contraceptive sponges and any kind of similar birth control device. That's just an FYI if you're ever in the market for birth control. :)

The next paragraph is the period-y part, so you can skip it if you're not feeling up to it.



I emptied twice today, since I started at 5 a.m. The first removal was tricky. It was waaay up there, and I had to fish around a lot. I got it out and immediately proceeded to spill it all over my bathroom floor AND my nice jeans. The second removal, however, was way better. My hands hardly got messy, and nothing spilled. The "gross" factor was less than that of a tampon. I totally reinserted it wrong, though, so now that's bugging me. But, hey, small victories!




I'm not saying that'll necessarily be your next experience - everyone's learning experience is different. If you feel too anxious to try again, there's no shame in waiting until you're ready. I'm just saying that this morning, I also thought ".... seriously? I have to do this in a bar bathroom after 5 beers?" and I feel slightly more capable already.
chamekke: cha_bamboo_with_leaveschamekke on May 23rd, 2012 06:15 am (UTC)
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*hugs* I'm sorry you had such a distressing experience with your cup.

There's no rush at all with the cup, so take all the time you need to get used to it, or put it aside for a while and try another month if that makes sense. And when you do try again, maybe remove the cup in the shower, or someplace where you won't worry if the cup does happen to slip through your fingers, at least until you've become accustomed to removing it easily.

I also recommend taking your time to ease the cup out gradually by bearing down and wiggling it back and forth. Then before you slip it out, you tilt it forward so that it's level with the ground when you remove it; that helps prevent spillage. (You can also dry your fingers momentarily on toilet paper if they get slippery during removal.)

Lastly, sometimes the Diva has a rather strong seal, so if you keep finding it hard to break that seal, you can try enlarging the holes a tiny bit (they're a little smaller than on most other cups). Others have mentioned using a pin or toothpick; I used a red-hot needle, heated with a lighter, to do the trick. Lots of people don't need to do this at all, but FWIW I did find that it helped.
dana_knockoutsdana_knockouts on May 24th, 2012 08:47 pm (UTC)
Just another voice in agreement with everyone else. My cup rides high and it worried me at first and took some getting used to and lots of practice to get comfortable with removal but for me it was worth it for sure.

I'm sorry this was a trigger for you. I think dropping your cup in the toilet would be awful enough, even without the additional complication of OCD, so I certainly feel for you.

I think the suggestions to remove the cup somewhere other than the toilet are great, at least until you feel more confident. I like to remove mine in the shower. Nice and clean!