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Rachel Schroepfer
04 April 2012 @ 04:37 pm
Hello! Okay, so this is my first cycle with my small Lunette, but I'm running into a spot of trouble. I can insert the cup just fine, and I can tell it's in place when I can't feel it anymore. Running my finger around it I know it's open. The problem is, I've noticed that when I go to remove it, I can get a finger all the way up to the rim without breaking the suction. Because it's literally suctioned to my cervix, and not my vagina. I had to remove it early today since it was giving me cramping issues, assuming from the suction. Is there any way I can prevent this? Do I need a larger, or maybe smaller, cup with a wider rim perhaps? Or even try Insteads? (Although I don't like the non-reusable aspect of those) I love the advantages of a cup, and I really want to keep using it, but at this point it's difficult. I do have a fairly low cervix I guess, around 1 1/2 inches on my period. Any advice would be appreciated. 
 
mjk_sea on April 4th, 2012 10:30 pm (UTC)
I have had the same issue. I use a large Diva (but am currently experimenting with other cups), and have found that on my lowest cervix days, the cup suctions right onto my cervix. Ouch! Try letting the cup open as soon as the rim is inside so it is making the seal to the vaginal walls, then push/kegel it up a bit if needed. I have found that making sure I have it low with a good seal makes all the difference. Good luck.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 4th, 2012 11:40 pm (UTC)
The Diva has teeny tiny anti-suction holes. Some have had good luck by enlarging them. Would that help you too?
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 4th, 2012 11:38 pm (UTC)
Hang in there, you've ALMOST got it. Check the REMOVAL tags for good advice and helpful hints.

Read this about suction: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html The idea is to get air into/above your cup. Try creating an air channel on the soft back side of your vag. Whether air seeps in through the anti-suction holes or whooshes in over the rim doesn't matter. Stay relaxed. Open your mouth and keep your jaw slack. And don't rush! You'll figure out a good way to get it out in no time. :o)
tinkerandcrabtinkerandcrab on April 6th, 2012 04:08 am (UTC)
Hmm, it seems like the OP is saying that it's not just an issue with removal, but with cramping due to the cup suctioning onto the cervix. My impression from this community and from my own (limited) menstrual cup experience, is that the cup is going to go where the cup is going to go, no matter what method of insertion is used. I wonder if the OP might try experimenting with flipping the cup inside out to alter its shape slightly, or maybe opting for another cup that doesn't automatically suction onto the cervix... just throwing out ideas!
m03m on April 6th, 2012 06:59 am (UTC)
Personally I think that a wider cup that will fit more loosely around the cervix might be the answer.

The cramps could be caused by the closeness of your cup to the cervix. Since your cervix is only 1,5 inches in, the cup may be putting pressure on it.

My cervix is in a similar position and my perfect cup is the large Fleurcup with the stem and grip rings removed.
djehutys_wisdom on April 6th, 2012 04:37 pm (UTC)
Removal woes
Ok, I also have MAJOR difficulty removing my cups, and I use both the large and small lunettes. I have a very high cervix, unlike the OP, but I do have super-duper-suction issues, so this may be helpful. Unlike many people here, I find it is far easier to break the seal on my small (softer) lunette than my large (firmer) lunette, but YMMV.

What I do is get into a very low squat -- with the back of my thighs resting against the back of my calves. That way I don't have to tense up to support myself (do this with your back to a wall or the tub if balancing in this position is difficult for you), and my cup is brought as low as it can go in this position. When you feel well-supported, make an effort to relax your pelvis muscles.

Then I fish the finger and thumb of one hand up while bearing down until I can grab the stem of the cup . If I am using my large lunette (very slippery stem) or the small is being mean to me that day, I will often find the stem, then grab a square of toilet paper and use it to grab the stem to get a better grip. And hang on to it like crazy. I don't try to pull it out at that point, I am just trying to keep ahold of it for the next step and keep a bit of tension on it.

Finally, I fish the index or middle finger of my other hand up the side of the cup until it is next to the rim and I can use it to push the rim (and heck, squash the whole cup) until the seal breaks. At this point, I can pull the cup out with my other hand (which is still pinching the stem).

After the cup is out, then I can get up out of my squat. This method does get blood on the floor and all over my hands IF the cup is very full, but I have a rubber bathmat I throw on the floor on those days, or I put some paper tissue on the floor if I don't have my mat.

There are days when I have to make 2 or 3 attempts to break the suction. It's frustrating, but you will get the hang of it. I cannot remove my cup on the toilet or in the shower because I can't reach the stem in those positions.

The small Lunette is a very forgiving cup, and from what I have read, people generally seem to have fewer problems with it than other cups overall. I would suggest that you spend a cycle or two with this one before looking for a different cup. It may just be a learning curve you have to get past. If it's really the cup shape, you'll have a better idea of what you like and don't like to help you choose a cup after that.