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01 April 2012 @ 02:26 am
I tried my very first menstrual cup today and I kind of want to cry. Wah.

I did a lot of research and a lot of thinking and finally I picked up a large Diva cup. (I'm just shy of 30 and have pretty wide set hips and, really, the cups are only a few mm difference.) The insertion went just fine. I didn't experience any of the initial horrors so many women complain of. I set it down low like the directions suggested. No major problems on that front, no real leaking, but I was definitely aware it was in there. After a few minutes I noticed a slight pain. I wiggled my body a bit to try and get it to move and that sort of worked/ I ignored the pain a while. It didn't go away so I removed the cup and reset it. This time a little deeper, but again after a few minutes the pain returned. I'd blame cramping but it was a sharp pain that seemed to ricochet up into my ovary. I immediately removed the cup. I'd read on a few blogs that some women flip their cup inside out to shorten it and tuck away the stem. I tried that. Still no luck. After a few hours of this song and dance I gave up and removed it for good.

It's been six hours and I *still* hurt. WTH? Does anyone know what that was? There's a post from a couple years ago that theorizes a suction issue may have actually caused bruising on my cervix. Is that a thing? Does anyone have any other theories? And is there a way to ice ones vagina?

I was using sponges before and *loved* them, but I wanted something with real longevity and all of my friends speak so highly of the Diva cup. Now I'm just miserable and in pain. I would hate for this investment to have been a total waste. If anyone has a suggestion I'd love to hear it.
Procrastinator Extraordinaire: Gargoyle Eyenightmer on April 1st, 2012 07:01 am (UTC)
I'm not sure about the cup, but I've had that sort of cramping when my cervix has been bumped. It seems to cause some sort referred pain that travels pretty far from where it starts. It can be pretty awful! It usually doesn't last too long, though (less than a day).

When I was using a shorter cup, it'd manage to migrate up and suction to my cervix in a way that really hurt. Using a different cup (I assumed longer was the key) fixed that. Unfortunately, the Diva is the longest cup, I think. Getting it to sit in a different way might help, though.

Another thing - could you have bumped your cervix while inserting the cup?
bamboo_princessbamboo_princess on April 1st, 2012 07:56 am (UTC)
sad uterus!
Ugh. At this point I don't know whether to go with a smaller cup or just curl up in a ball and cradle my sponges in apology. I feel like a wimp but this is awful.

It doesn't *feel* like cramping, but then I suppose bumping ones cervix is probably a foreign sort of feeling. Maybe tomorrow I'll give it a second try if the pain has subsided.

Ps. To the other individual that posted- I accidentally deleted your post. Sorry. I read it tho'.
m03m on April 1st, 2012 08:50 am (UTC)
Re: sad uterus!
You're not a wimp. Cups aren't meant to hurt and since yours did, something wasn't right.
Now that you are on your period, how deep inside is your cervix? It could just be too low for a Diva.

Hip width, by the way, is not really related to vagina size.
juliiie87juliiie87 on April 1st, 2012 10:06 am (UTC)
Re: sad uterus!
This. Maybe your vagina is too short for this particular cup, or may be you missed your cervix, hence the pain ! hang in there. :)
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 1st, 2012 01:42 pm (UTC)
It's possible that the Diva is not a good sized cup for you. Compare its dimensions to other brands at http://sizecharts.livejournal.com/ As many of us have found out, just because a particular cup doesn't fit us, doesn't mean others won't.

It's also possible that you inserted/removed it in such a way that you injured your cervix (not permanently.) And it's also possible that you just had a bad first experience in getting through the dreaded learning curve that many of experience when it comes to cups.

As for suction, read this: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html
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Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on April 19th, 2012 09:20 am (UTC)
You know your body best. If you think you're doing damage, stop using your cup.
bamboo_princessbamboo_princess on April 1st, 2012 05:01 pm (UTC)
I'm happy to report that this morning I feeling much better. Thanks for the help.

So many of the cups were close to the length of Diva cup I spent most of my time worrying about the diameter.

Has anyone ever tried modifying the length of their cup? Lots of people cut off the stem. Has anyone ever tried cutting off the rim?
Jennifer Monoteasy2begreen on April 1st, 2012 05:20 pm (UTC)
I don't think you want to do that, since the rim controls the suction, and poor suction means leaking. It also might be kind of jagged and painful. If turning the Diva inside out didn't shorten it enough for you, you might need a shorter cup, maybe a MeLuna? The 'mini' style is the shortest cup available, I think. I've also been looking into softer cups with smaller diameters (my current small Lunette is either a little too firm or a little too wide for me) and am thinking of going for either a small Ladycup ($30 on Amazon) or a soft Meluna ($21 if you order through the Facebook co-op, but you might have to wait a while). I'm sorry your first cup was such a painful experience!
m03m on April 1st, 2012 06:45 pm (UTC)
So many of the cups were close to the length of Diva cup
Not really, no. Actually, almost all cups are shorter than the Diva cup... some are way shorter.

The good news is that you'd have to try really hard to buy a different cup and not end up with something that's significantly shorter.
And while vaginas are generally pretty flexible widthwise, the length of a cup is the measurement that matters most.

More good news is that you'll probably be able to sell your very briefly used Diva in the mc_sales community linked at the top of the sidebar.

I don't think a cup will still work if you cut the rim off.

Good luck, I'm glad to hear you're feeling better now!
bamboo_princessbamboo_princess on April 1st, 2012 07:01 pm (UTC)
According to this chart a majority of Large cups are between 50 and 57 mm. According to the Diva website one reason to buy a larger cup is that "hip widening occurs as your get older." Your responses were rude and unnecessary. What exactly was the goal of ignorance shaming? I fail to see the point of saying "youre wrong" to someone who clearly is discussing her misinformed choice.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Edited at 2012-04-01 07:01 pm (UTC)
m03m on April 1st, 2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
Whoa, wait. I'm trying to inform, not to shame or be rude. I'm sorry to hear that you feel like I was trying to shame you.
I don't feel that ignorance is anything to feel ashamed about: no one was born knowing about cups. We all start off ignorant and that's okay.

I'm probably blunter or terser than you're used to people being. Part of the reason may be that I'm typing all of this in a foreign language. It's harder that way.

50 or 57 mm length is a pretty relevant difference in my opinion. I don't think I could wear a cup that's 3 mm longer than the one I use; 3 mm wider, now that would probably not be a problem and I might not even notice it.
Darling Nikkijessiebanana on April 1st, 2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
I'm not one to intervene, but I don't think she was trying to be rude. She simply was trying to give you the correct information. Manufacturers will say anything to simplify the shopping process and get you to purchase their product. Most larger cups, if you've noticed, aren't even that significantly wider. The majority of the size difference is in the length. 38-47mm vs 40-57mm which is twice the range.


Edited at 2012-04-01 07:25 pm (UTC)
juliiie87juliiie87 on April 2nd, 2012 11:03 am (UTC)
To be fair the charts you were looking at seem pretty complicated and a little confusing too !

Looking at the "legth" chart from your link, the Diva appears at the bottom, next to the Naturcup cups, which measurments are actually wrong by a cm (indeed a significative difference where cups are concerned). I think the person who made this chart copied the mistake from Melissa (Menstrual Cups Info), who also provides the most valuable squishiness ratings on her blog. The sizecharts on livejournal has the right measurments for the Naturcup(s).
mjspmjsp on April 2nd, 2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
I've had the same issue once i was stuck with my shortest cup on my heavvy days.. Even as it was out i had pains the rest of the day. Dunno what the cause was, but it was not nice! Especially after having used cups for a while, which for me means less cramps in general.
The only thing that came close was once as i had my cervix stuck inbetween my vagina wall and the cup. The same feeling as my short-cup incident, but stayed only an hour or so after i fixed the cervix inside of the cup.

I have a quite low, dangly cerwix on heavvy days, and really need to take care it is on the inside of the cup, whereit can sit without moving about too much..