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24 March 2012 @ 11:30 pm
Hi! I'm a first time user and I've purchased a silicone mooncup size b but it says USA on the brim, so I'm assuming it could be different from the UK version (so I was hoping someone can tell me if there is a difference). So far I don't have many complaints but I am still learning to use it.
I'm posting to ask two questions:
  • If there's a similar cup I can look into buying later that is softer because I can't hold it folded AND insert it deep without feeling like I just broke and twisted my hand and fingers because I tried to prevent it from premature unfold. The upper ring seems too stiff to keep it folded with least pressure while inserting and holding on to the lower part of cup, but I am not sure if a softer cup has some draw backs too. Does it?
  • And, if it could be correct to try to place two fingers just under the base of cup, without squeezing at it, to just nudge it up higher after I've inserted and popped it open? Am I potentially ruining the supposed suction? I just really can't stick it up as high as I'd like to without it surprise-popping open on me. I'm also somewhat unclear about how suction and holes work upon insertion and will probably look into reading about it later here.
That's all I needed advice on so far, and I would also like to know how I should tag this post. Thank you so much!
Lebannen Luitreath: Norway can be prettylebannen on March 25th, 2012 09:37 am (UTC)
The company that makes the thing called the Mooncup in the UK is not the same company that makes the thing called the Mooncup in the USA, bascially the US company originally made the Keeper (out of rubber, before silicone was available) and decided to change the name when they started making a silicone cup. So they're two different cups with the same name.

Softer cups can be harder to persuade to open immediately, whereas firmer ones can do that *thwap* OW! surprise opening.

And, if it could be correct to try to place two fingers just under the base of cup, without squeezing at it, to just nudge it up higher after I've inserted and popped it open?

Yeah, I do something like this and it works fine for me - the answer is, if it works for you, do it! I'm not convinced about the existence of 'suction' either. Try flexing your internal muscles, too, to help it move up - this is where people start talking about kegels.
ashtraywaspashtraywasp on March 26th, 2012 04:59 am (UTC)
thank you! Makes sense
gkathi on March 25th, 2012 10:41 am (UTC)
ashtraywaspashtraywasp on March 26th, 2012 05:00 am (UTC)
Thanks! I was looking for this chart
Serpentserpent_849 on March 25th, 2012 11:25 am (UTC)
the drawback of soft cups is the same as the advantage of them - they don't pop open easily.
i made a post with various tricks for popping open: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2618390.html#cutid1 so imo it's not a problem.
pay attention to how you keep your cup folded. this is what works for me http://lockerz.com/s/71359161 but my cups are all pretty soft. when i insert i sort of press it like that against my vulva and slide it in.
there's no need to insert it as far as it goes before letting it open. do you know where your cervix is? sounds like it might be low.
ashtraywaspashtraywasp on March 26th, 2012 05:01 am (UTC)
thank you. No, I'm figuring it out.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on March 25th, 2012 12:27 pm (UTC)
The UK Mooncup (usually one word) and the US Moon Cup (usually two words) made by Keeper are similar in shape but their dimensions are different.

UK Mooncups (MCUK) are 43 or 46 mm wide and only 50mm long.
US Keeper Moon Cups are 41 or 44 mm wide and 54mm long.

Go to the Community FAQ and scroll down to several posts that have size, capacity and squishy-ness charts to compare what you have to other cups.

As for suction, read this: http://menstrual-cups.livejournal.com/2091967.html

There are many ways to insert and remove cups. Find ways that work for you. Like you, I open mine down low and then nudge it up into place. The holes are anti-suction holes and help in getting the cup to open and also in relieving suction that might get created during removal.
ashtraywaspashtraywasp on March 26th, 2012 05:01 am (UTC)
thanks! this really helps
pinkmathpinkmath on March 26th, 2012 12:50 am (UTC)
I have to insert my (small) Keeper Moon Cup using the extreme seven's fold and water based lube.

For me it's easier to hold until I get the base of the cup passed my public bone. Then I let go and push it up higher with one (sometimes two) finger(s). Then *WHAM* it's open. It took a long while to get use to that. Now I only using it on high high cervix days when fishing out my small Fleurcup (which I love btw) is a pain.
ashtraywaspashtraywasp on March 26th, 2012 05:03 am (UTC)
thanks. haha, how do you get it to fold like that? It feels so hard.
pinkmathpinkmath on March 26th, 2012 01:30 pm (UTC)
Hmmm.... are we thinking of the same fold? I thought it was pretty easy but we're all different! :)

I guess it's also called the triangle fold (50seconds in):

ashtraywaspashtraywasp on March 26th, 2012 11:37 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I see. The rim is really stiff so I do the C fold and hold it by the bottom of the cup when sticking it in.
skysosskysos on March 26th, 2012 04:24 am (UTC)
For what it's worth, I think your hand muscles will get stronger over time. I remember having similar troubles on my first period with my cup, but it's never been a problem since. you might try it a little longer before buying a new cup.
ashtraywaspashtraywasp on March 26th, 2012 05:05 am (UTC)
I've actually concluded that I'd prefer the harder cup after reading the responses. I'm getting more used to it now. I think my fingers are pretty strong because my profession requires finger/ hand strength, but I'm assuming now I probably had problems gripping it the correct way so I'm not twisting myself trying to insert it... getting a bit better at it now..
thank you!!
Summers0mmer on March 28th, 2012 01:17 am (UTC)
I initially worried about holding a stiffer cup folded to insert, having arthritis, but my Vagina of Steel would collapse a softer one ;) The classic Meluna I use (6/10 stiffness) and a C fold are good for me. Insertion was tricky at first but your hands and body get used to it. Holding the cup folded by the base really helps, I see you're doing that. It's one of those skills where you're doing 7 things at once and have to get the knack. Glad to hear it's getting easier!