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21 February 2012 @ 06:18 pm

Hello all! 

So, I have read quite a few entries on here- this being my first submitted. I have a question about the Nuvaring, just something I've been thinking about. 

I'm no expert, but I've done a lot of paranoia-based reading on birth control, etc. From what I understand, birth control serves to suppress ovulation/the forming of an egg. I have also heard that it is not possible to form an egg while still menstruating. 

This being said, would the concerns of the cup being in the way of the Nuvaring's birth control be moot- or have I made a false assumption? I mean, I have read that most people say that their cup doesn't affect their ring. On the other hand, some people have said to put the ring in first, so that it is near the cervix; others have said to put the ring in second, so that it doesn't slip into the cup and become useless. But what I don't understand is this- can possible obstruction of the hormones from getting to the right place (be it the cervix or just the vaginal wall- whichever it is) lead to ovulation if I'm still on my period?

So I guess what I'm asking is this- is there a way that the cup could cause the Nuvaring to somehow fail in it's job of preventing ovulation if you have to use both in the last few days of menstruation? Is there a resource with a factual stance on this? (All I've seen are personal stories)

Anyways, I hope this wasn't too confusing- I'm just trying to decide if I should A: use liners from the day I put in the ring until menstruation stops B: Not worry about it. I would give my gynecologist a call, but to be honest I don't really feel comfortable with her, debating switching doctors entirely (unrelated rant)

Thanks for reading! 

Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on February 22nd, 2012 01:58 am (UTC)
idk but my grandma was menstruating when she conceived my aunt...
fragment_aeriefragment_aerie on February 22nd, 2012 02:36 am (UTC)
I've found the ring in the cup before, so definitely take it out with the cup and put in around the bottom of the cup when you reinsert. It's been a hassle, I'm switching BC at my next gyno appointment.
But yeah, if the cup is between the ring and your vaginal wall, the hormones aren't getting into your bloodstream. So the ring won't be doing its job.
theholls on February 22nd, 2012 04:31 am (UTC)
This is my first cycle using the cup, I was on the Nuvaring the year before last. I think I'll just use liners on the days where my ring is supposed to be in- I still don't completely like the fact that much of the surface area of the ring is pressed against the cup. It makes me think that maybe not the entire dosage of hormones are reaching my vaginal wall... I can't do the pill since my schedule fluctuates constantly which makes it difficult to take the pills consistently.
Scrystalyne on February 22nd, 2012 03:27 am (UTC)
Ovulation is the releasing of the egg, not the formation of it.

From what I understand hormonal bc tricks your body into thinking it's already pregnant by changing hormone levels, therefor your body doesn't try getting pregnant "again".

I thought you're supposed to take the nuvaring out for a week while on your period, so why are you worried about putting it in while on your period?

Why don't you contact the company and ask them?

It depends on how long your cycle is, but if you ovulate only a few days after your period is over, you could get pregnant if you have sex on your period because sperm can live for a few days. Usually a woman ovulated around 9-14 days before her period.

I know with oral bc, you have to take it exactly the same time of day and very specific days, so I imagine if you're not getting some of your hormones it's the same thing. The querion is does the nuvaring hormones are abs thru the cervix or the vaginal wall. If thruthe vaginal wall, then as long as it's touching it shouldn't matter.
Scrystalyne on February 22nd, 2012 03:30 am (UTC)
Ps- the site says you can wear tampons, so it's probably fine.
theholls on February 22nd, 2012 04:37 am (UTC)
The way the ring works is that the ring is out for 7 days, but my cycle is such that I still have a few days of light bleeding once the ring is in again (my period always starts towards the end of my "out week"- it was similar when I took the pill, I always started well into the week with the iron tablets).

My significant other and I never have sex on my period, we just don't like the sensation. I'm not sure which area is important for absorption.

I think I'll just err on the side of caution and assume that the ring would be more effective without any sort of obstruction. It won't be too difficult to use liners, and at least it doesn't produce as much waste as using pads every day.

Thanks for the feedback!
k_kommando_ on February 22nd, 2012 05:04 am (UTC)
if you're concerned about waste, you might want to think about reusable cloth liners. there's a very helpful group here on lj, cloth_pads if you decide you're interested :)
theholls on February 22nd, 2012 05:12 am (UTC)
I've read a bit about those, I might have to check it out! Thank you!
juliiie87juliiie87 on February 22nd, 2012 02:18 pm (UTC)
I'm a pill user but I wanted to point out than when you're on any form of hbc, you're not supposed to even have a "real" cycle, because 1) you're not supposed to ovulate (release an egg) 2) the bleeding isn't actually your period, it's artificially induced by the drop of your hormonal levels while you are on your "break" week. This is also why it takes a few days before the level drops low enough to cause bleeding.

As a cloth liner user, I'd use liners for the last few days of spotting, so you don't have to worry about the ring while using the cup. Like _kommando_ said they limit sanitary waste, plus they're so cute and comfy ! :)
Sarcasticia Nitpickersontisiphone on February 22nd, 2012 07:53 am (UTC)
From what I understand hormonal bc tricks your body into thinking it's already pregnant by changing hormone levels, therefor your body doesn't try getting pregnant "again".

Not exactly, although that's a popular conception of how it works. What it does is mimic the hormonal conditions after you've ovulated, preventing the release of "another" egg (as well as creating some uterine environment changes).
fireaphidfireaphid on February 24th, 2012 03:30 am (UTC)
Thank you!
fireaphidfireaphid on February 24th, 2012 04:00 am (UTC)
It is very possible to ovulate while menstruating, though it is uncommon. I routinely ovulate on day 7-10 of my cycle and have since I started getting periods (eep) twelve years ago. Until he past couple years, I would still be bleeding until day 10-12 of my cycle. Everyone's built a little differently, and it's not impossible.

Lucky for you, you don't menstruate on hormonal birth control. Your "period" is triggered by withdrawal from the hormones when you discontinue the hormonal treatment for your off week. You are considered protected from pregnancy during your "period" so long as you have used the hormonal method for at least 21 consecutive days before taking the break and the break is no longer than 7 days long. The risk is that if you're still using the cup when your 7 days are up and it somehow interferes with the absorption of the hormones, it could weaken your protection be effectively extending your off week, giving your ovaries enough time to "wake up" and ovulate. However, so long as the ring is in good contact with the vaginal walls (i.e. not sitting inside your cup!), you can consider your protection uncompromised. I hope that clears things up!