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candiceeliza
17 February 2012 @ 05:58 am
After lurking and going through dozens of posts I still feel like I need advice and answers on my particular journey to cup happiness. :) I found a cup forum but it is mainly very inactive and finding this active community has made me excited because I've been waiting for over a month to get my cup while I agonize over different ones (I know, impatient, but I haven't been this excited about my period since 11 years ago). XD Hopefully someone can help me.

Cutting to the chase.

I have a very low cervix (I start to feel it half an inch to an inch in when I'm on my period) and I have a retroverted (tilted) uterus. I have never had children, never been pregnant and I am married and on the Pill (hopefully that will change soon) so my period is very light-light or no more than barely medium (on my heaviest day I don't even fill up a whole pad). When not on my period I can feel the beginning of my cervix about 2.5-3 inches in.

I am VERY sensitive. Figuring out I have a low cervix was a breakthrough moment for me because it helped me understand part of why I hated tampons so much and preferred pads - I was essentially stabbing my cervix. They also feel incredibly dry and painful to insert and remove for me (horrible, awful things!!). I must sound silly for wanting a cup (:P) but I'd like one for ease in travel, camping, backpacking, etc. so I don't have to pack lots of cloth pads/rags and I hear they are much more comfortable than those beastly tampons.

Melissa suggested Lunette, Si-Bell, soft MeLuna and Fleurcup, but Fleurcup seems nearly identical but not as soft as Si-Bell from what I've read and has more textures on it, not to mention being very difficult to get a hold of so I have omitted that one. Lunette I fear doesn't have consistency across the board in terms of softness in both sizes so if I ever need to go up a size I would likely need to switch brands, but that's not necessarily a deal-breaker, just an inconvenience. Si-Bell/Lunette's lengths concern me a little but I don't know if they're too long or not...

What would feel the least noticeable in terms of both shortest length and softness, and any other factor crucial for my situation? Another question I only found vague answers to was regarding the Thermoplastic Elastomer or TPE in MeLuna cups - what makes this material different from medical-grade silicone? That's a big concern of mine, is how "safe" TPE is. I also read that some of these companies may test on animals? = /

The only other things I can think of is that measuring lines would sure be nice but none of the short/soft cups appear to have them, and I would prefer a clear cup because of questions over color safety in addition to being able to gauge flow better with clear. Comfort is clearly (no pun intended) top priority, however! Thanks so much for getting through all this. =)
 
 
Current Mood: anxiousanxious
 
m03m on February 17th, 2012 06:45 pm (UTC)
Fleurcup isn't hard to get hold of at all. You just order it from the website and they send it to you. I can't think of an easier way to buy a cup.

It does have rather pronounced grip rings. They chafed me, so I filed them off. And then I realised that I could just have flipped the cup inside out and gotten pretty much the same result... d'oh!

A Fleurcup inside out might very well be a good option for you. But there are others, too.
candiceelizacandiceeliza on February 17th, 2012 07:35 pm (UTC)
Fleurcup
Thanks for the response. Hard to get a hold of in the United States, I mean, or I had read about some people having trouble with that somewhere - and in comparison to Si-Bell, which is softer, has less textures but the same shape, and can be ordered from femininewear. If there is a better cup for sensitive/low cervix people I can't really imagine buying one less great and flipping it inside out, for me anyway. =)
juliiie87juliiie87 on February 17th, 2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
Re: Fleurcup
From what I've heard, you can't buy anything but Divas in proper US stores, and I advise strongly against this one in your case. Ok, possibly Keeper and Keeper Mooncup, or even Mooncup, but they are rather stiff cups I wouldn't recommend either if you're looking for comfort (even though comfort is relative). So any cup you choose, you'll have to order it online.
Re: Fleurcup - candiceeliza on February 17th, 2012 08:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
m03m on February 17th, 2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Fleurcup
*shrug* It's just as hard or easy to order it from the US as it is from any other country.
I have to order online no matter which cup I want... I don't see the Fleurcup as harder to buy than any other cup.

Of course, the Si-Bell may very well be the better cup for you. Whatever you decide, good luck!
Re: Fleurcup - candiceeliza on February 17th, 2012 08:13 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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juliiie87juliiie87 on February 17th, 2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
With such a low cervix, your cup will have to find some space around your cervix on the sides, so I'd take into account how much room there is there and how "long" your cervix feels, given it'll most likely steal capacity inside the cup. You might want to think about how heavy your natural flow is, off hbc. A larger short cup such as a large Ladycup might sit higher around your cerviy and provide more capacity.

For a light flow, small Meluna soft (possibly the older version S or M, which is harder to come by) and small Fleurcup inside out both have the benefit of a round shaped bottom for extra capacity and a more comfortable fit. The Lunette's bottom is pointy and might poke you if you have to trim the stem of. Si-Bell is similar in dimensions to Lunette, although it is admitedly the softest cup ever, but none of the cups mentionned in my post are really stiff, the small Lunette rating 4, 10 being the stiffest.

Have you read Meluna's faq ? I haven't got any other source but they do list many reassuring points, testing and so on : http://meluna.eu/service/meluna-faq.html#meluna-herstellung
candiceelizacandiceeliza on February 17th, 2012 08:08 pm (UTC)
Flow Off HBC/MeLuna
My flow when I was not on HBC was light to medium, and that's being generous. I never filled up a pad on my heaviest day then, either. I really don't appear to need capacity. I'm trying to visualize/determine room and length of cervix but it's difficult. Since I'm low, I must also be rather short in the canal.

Thanks for the FAQ link. It took me to this, where they tested on mice and rabbits: http://meluna.eu/media/files/TM4MED_USPVI.pdf =(

What about animal testing with the other cup brands?

juliiie87juliiie87 on February 17th, 2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Flow Off HBC/MeLuna
By long I meant dangly (like a little penis some people described ^^).
Urgh about the animal testing... :/

About the Fleurcup argument : Although the French are notorious for failing miserably at foreign languages, all of their website / instructions / shipping policy and so on translates into several languages. However, if you ever need to translate anything, I can offer my help as a native french speaker. :)
Re: Flow Off HBC/MeLuna - candiceeliza on February 18th, 2012 03:11 am (UTC) (Expand)
Darling Nikkijessiebanana on February 17th, 2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
I'm certainly not a cup veteran, but you sound a lot like me and I love the (old shape) MeLuna small soft. It's very short, especially if you order it with the ball or no stem option and if you have a light flow it won't be an issue at all. I didn't care for the new shape even though it's a relatively short cup compared to others. The softs only come in colors and glitter clears though if you're truly concerned about that. I actually thought the way you did at first, but the way I see it now is if I can boil a cup for 5 minutes with zero color leeching, I can believe it's safely a part of the product.

Anywho I don't think my cervix is very dangly, so you might be better off with a different cup that is longer and sits around it if yours is? Personally that didn't work for me. It was just a lot of irritation for nothing.

The MeLuna website is very easy to order from, you can change the language to English, and the customer service representatives do speak English as well. Shipping is about $4, very reasonable for international shipping, and you'll get it in about a week.
juliiie87juliiie87 on February 17th, 2012 09:36 pm (UTC)
This. For more "cup veteran" advice on super low cervixes, OP should track Serpent's comments, or ask her directly what her favourite cups are, she's a regular poster.
candiceelizacandiceeliza on February 18th, 2012 03:28 am (UTC)
It's super-low? =/

I did a search for Serpent but nothing came up.
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candiceelizacandiceeliza on February 18th, 2012 03:22 am (UTC)
MeLuna
I have to say finding out about MeLuna's injection of little mice and rabbits has rather dampened my enthusiasm. =/ I try to avoid animal tested products, so I'll have to give that one some thought...

Lunette is apparently on sale through Green Deals (is that an authorized retailer or a safe place to purchase?). It's not as soft as Fleurcup or Si-Bell though.

What did you mean by a different cup that is longer? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't shorter cups better for low cervixes? Thanks. :)

Also, if anyone could tell me how to check and find out whether these other companies test on animals or not that would be really helpful, I searched but I may need to send them some e-mails?
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Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on February 17th, 2012 09:47 pm (UTC)
As for availability... You MIGHT find a Diva or Keeper/Mooncup at a brick and mortar store like Whole Foods or a drug store -- but they are far more affordable when ordered from an online discounter. Since you're most likely going to be buying online anyway, that opens up your choices to nearly all of the brands.

The only ones you can buy from US distributors are Divas, Keepers, US Moon Cups and Lunettes. They are the only brands to have gone through the FDA Approval process to have permission to be sold in the US. Others have to be ordered internationally. Sometimes you can find them on ebay from international sellers.

Go with your gut from the ones you've narrowed down.
melissa569melissa569 on February 18th, 2012 07:08 am (UTC)
Can't remember if I gave you a link to the photo comparisons (having been to the other forum, you might have seen it). But just in case:

http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library

It kind of shows everything in terms of how long all the cups are.

As for TPE-- as far as I have read, its used in the medical field with just as much success and safety as medical silicone. Its just another material option on the market really, because there are people with sensitivity to silicone, or to latex, etc. If we have other options, these people do not have to be excluded from cup use. :) Also, maybe the material was cheaper to work with? I'm not sure...


candiceelizacandiceeliza on February 18th, 2012 09:21 am (UTC)
Hey Melissa! :) Thanks for taking all those pictures, they are really helpful. I'm just having a really hard time choosing... XD I'm kind of afraid I'll pick wrong and have to try again.

Good to know about the TPE!
Serpent: neutralserpent_849 on February 18th, 2012 09:11 pm (UTC)
don't be afraid, take it as an excuse to try out several cups:) i myself am considering getting an old style small meluna to complete my collection (and also because i've had a few 12-day periods... ugh)

you may well be satisfied with the first cup you get, compared to pads, but i recommend trying out more.
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