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13 February 2012 @ 06:54 pm
Newbie user here.  Ok so last night I put it in first time, no problems.  Took it out an hour later (period was very light) to find no leaks or anything so yay.  Kept it in overnight.  Woke up in the morning.......OMG!!!!  Could not get it out for the life of me!  I was able to reach the stem but my fingers were to slippery to grasp it and I couldn't reach the bottom of the cup either (I tried bearing down, I actually had a bowel movement which did nothing).  I struggled 20 minutes with a pair of pliers and finally pulled it out.....mimicking the St Valentine's Day massacre in the bathroom.  So my solution was to tie a piece of floss around the stem and then pull it out like I would a tampon.  Well I went to work today and 4 hours of it being in I decided to check on it.  I gently tugged on the string and the cup came out easily, no pain.  It was about half full.  I emptied it, washed it (as well as you can in a public restroom that was more like a personal bathroom with a sink and toilet in the same room, i.e. one person can go at a time).  So I struggled a bit to put it in.  Got it in, returned to work.  Got home, pulled it out easily as before with the floss tied to it.  Washed and emptied it, put it back in me.  My question is would it be a problem to use floss to keep pulling it out or am I risking ripping off the stem?  BTW I use a Diva Cup, model 1 (pre-birth), never had sex.
naked_beauty_21 on February 14th, 2012 02:36 am (UTC)
I just want to say that using floss sounds awesome! I never thought of that before! I kind of doubt it'll hurt the stem, unless the loop around the stem gets tighter when you pull on it, if you know what I mean.
tinkerandcrabtinkerandcrab on February 14th, 2012 05:52 am (UTC)
Sounds like you're in the club of people who would jump at the chance to have a really long cup... even longer than the Diva! I'm trying to get the message out there that some manufacturer really needs to produce a very long-bodied cup for the high-cervix community... I keep seeing posts on here from people who are having removal difficulties because of trouble reaching the tip of the stem and consequently pinching the base... if that's not a length issue, I don't know what is. Represent!
juliiie87juliiie87 on February 14th, 2012 11:41 am (UTC)
About the slippery stem : you could try re-drying your finger with TP a few times to get a better grip, or, extreme solution, wear a glove like someone reported ! (lol)

As long as the stem looks sturdy enough, and the floss doesn't make any visible damage to it in time, you should be ok. The main thing being, it shouldn't hurt. If it does, don't pull harder, it simply means you need to squeeze the cup in order to break the seal/suction, which most people have to. People usually get better at bearing down after a while though, so keep trying.

The easiest position to bring the cup closer should be squatting, preferably in the bathtub or putting your feet up if you're sitting on the toilet. My favourite position to insert in is lying down resting on one elbow, I find it so much easier because I'm all relaxed this way. Good luck in your learning curve, sounds like you're doing great already !
musicmylovemusicmylove on February 15th, 2012 12:19 am (UTC)
Thanks for the replies :)

I think I've mastered removal now, sans floss (besides, this morning when I tried to pull it out with the floss, the floss broke off)! I read a couple posts of people sticking their finger up there to break the seal, then fold the cup in a C, similar to when you put it in, pull it down, grab the base with your thumb and then pull it out that way (I call it the "come hither method"). I'm still using light pantyliners because I have a bit of spotting. I sent an email to DivaCup asking if I can try the model 2 to see if that works better.
juliiie87juliiie87 on February 15th, 2012 12:43 pm (UTC)
Hmm it might work if your cervix is pokind out of the rim, but it could also be just residual slobber... depending on how much spotting you get. Good method ! To me my cup feels kinda like a balloon I have to press against in order to deflate, be fore I drag it out.
fluffmyflamingofluffmyflamingo on February 15th, 2012 08:38 am (UTC)
I have no advice re: the floss, just wanted to say I'm a newbie too and am being having the same problem fetching it out but only after I've slept with it in which appears to be the same case as with you! I can wear it all day and it's fine, never moves! I'm considering until I get more used to removal in general, either not wearing it at night or getting another cup and keeping the stem intact for night time use!
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juliiie87juliiie87 on February 15th, 2012 12:40 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure about poking the stem several times with a needle, then again, I've never seen a Diva's stem in real life...
Aren't there any cups that are longer in total that the Diva ? Actually, judging from the pics, yes there are ! http://menstrualcups.friendhood.net/f52-moderator-s-photo-library
The KMC clearly has a longer stem, and Cuplee, Si-Bell and Natural Mamma, even Lunette look a little bit longer.
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juliiie87juliiie87 on February 16th, 2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
Length in total vs. length of the cup
Oh yes, the Diva IS the longest cup in the body indeed, though some users with a super high cervix may wish for a longer one. The cups I mentionned are longer IN TOTAL although there bodies are shorter. But they do have a longer stem, which you can trim off to your ideal length.

Some have sturdy flat stems such as the Lunette's and the Meluna's, or just any stem with grip rings will pretty much prevent splippery-ness (such as Fleurcup, Cuplee, etc.) ! The stem is probably the worst feature of the Diva imo.