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Hi all, I am a first time DivaCup user who is a bit confused about some conflicting information. I am not experiencing any pain or problems at all with my new size 1 DivaCup, I can't feel it, no irritation etc, but I do notice that as my cervix is sitting lower than the girl in the diagrams, the top of the cup covers my cervix, and the stem is in exactly the right place just at the opening, no irritation etc.

If that is safe and normal then I'm fine with that, but some of you say you try and avoid the cup covering the cervix and others say that the goal is for the cup to cover the cervix. The DivaCup website seems to just ignore the issue, saying that the cup sits below the cervix and not up against it, but from the stories I have read, that is not the case for some women.

I haven't yet found any posts that say WHY you should avoid covering the cervix. Are there health risks? So my question is, what dangers could be associated with the DivaCup, or any other brand, covering the cervix during use? And/or, why do you, menstrual cup user, try to avoid your menstrual cup from covering your cervix?

Thanking you in advance. Love this community and all the information I have already found!

Fleen
 
Dina Clarelintilla on July 10th, 2011 08:20 am (UTC)
Mod note
Hi! Welcome to the community and all.

Could you please edit your post to make the language gender neutral? We aren't all ladies here. Thank you!
Fleenfleen on July 10th, 2011 08:30 am (UTC)
Re: Mod note
Done
Dina Clarelintilla on July 10th, 2011 08:33 am (UTC)
Re: Mod note
Perfect, thank you!
Dina Clarelintilla on July 10th, 2011 08:21 am (UTC)
Mod hat off ;)
As for your question - yeah, that's totally fine. The rim of my cup is, as far as I can tell, right around the tip of mine. Not a problem!
Katzhukora1 on July 10th, 2011 08:44 am (UTC)
Cups tend to sit where they want to sit, so those insertion diagrams most companies provide really aren't all that useful in the real world of cup use. My cervix sits almost entirely inside my cup, and has done for years (I couldn't use a cup at all if I wasn't ok with that!). I've never had a single problem with it other than the occasional twinge of discomfort from cervix bumping during insertion if I have a particularly sensitive cervix that month. I'm pretty sure it's 100% fine and normal and healthy to have your cervix partly or completely covered by your cup as long as it isn't causing you any major discomfort to do so.
Kai: 2Cupskuradi8 on July 10th, 2011 12:32 pm (UTC)
As zhukora1 said, cups will sit where ever they darn well please -- and that's usually (O) around the cervix. Yes, the instructional diagrams are ALL way off because the proportions of the cup make it look tiny and there is often a cup-length or more between the rim of the cup and the cervix. In reality, a cup more or less fills the vaginal cavity for many/most users.

My reasoning behind such inaccuracy is that cup companies want their users to open the cup "down low" and then let it find its own level -- so that we don't overshoot our cervix as shown in the first photo of the Tips section at http://www.wikihow.com/Use-a-Menstrual-Cup#Tips
dlyjrnl: colordlyjrnl on July 10th, 2011 01:50 pm (UTC)
I always thought the problem with the cup covering the cervix is that having the cervix "inside" the cup robs it of some/most of its capacity (depending on the cup). AFAIK it isn't about any health risk (otherwise diaphragms would be a major problem, no?)
m03m on July 10th, 2011 03:28 pm (UTC)
That sounds right to me.

For me, it's the only possible way I can wear a cup, since my cervix is rather low. It's not problematic tough, my large Fleurcup is very comfy and works really well.
djehutys_wisdom on July 10th, 2011 06:05 pm (UTC)
risk
The diagrams really are confusing, but remember that every person is built a little differently. Some women have a very high cervix, so their cup isn't even near it, others have their cervix less than a finger-length inside their vagina. The one thing I really take issue with is that if your cervix is high (like the diagrams), you WILL end up putting the cup behind your pubic bone, which the directions tell you not to do! I personally cannot figure out how a cup would fit in front of the public bone, but maybe cup user with a lower cervix could enlighten me? I am genuinely curious.

The only risks I know of (in the sense you are describing) are that if you get the rim across your cervix, it can really hurt and/or make you pass out (there are some nerve endings there that can trigger this). If you put your cup around your cervix and the cup is too narrow, you might very well pinch your cervix, which will probably hurt like heck. Also, if your cup is around your cervix and you don't break the seal when you remove it, it can make your cervix very sore.

Now, if you have an IUD (and a number of us on this community do), having your cup up around you cervix might present some danger of pulling on your strings, which could lead to accidental expulsion. Some cup companies solve this by saying their cups are not suitable for IUD users, others merely suggest that the strings be trimmed very short and that IUD users discuss cup use with their doctor. Some of the IUD users on this community solve this by tucking the strings inside the cup, others tuck the strings up behind their cervix. My cervix is so high I cannot find it nor my strings, so there's not much I can do (I assume other high-cervix IUD + cup users are in the same boat as me), although I will admit it does worry me sometimes.
Serpentserpent_849 on July 11th, 2011 04:42 pm (UTC)
Re: risk
i don't understand what confuses you :-) my cervix is veeery low, like 1cm in. any cup will stick out of me and even this isn't uncomfortable, maybe only on the toilet. the bottom of the cup will sit just fine right near the pubic bone:)
i'd also add that if the OP was prone to vasovagal response she'd probably know. and that all cups are wide enough inside not to actually "pinch" the cervix (omg i used to be so worried about folding the cup for removal...not a problem at all haha), it can rather sit incorrectly because it's too narrow and maybe press on it or something.
fee_parisienne on July 10th, 2011 11:15 pm (UTC)
I don't know anything about possible risks or dangers of a cup covering one's cervix.

I don't try to avoid that at all, because my menstrual blood comes out of the os of my cervix. If my cup did not cover my cervix, it would not be catching the blood at all. And that seems kind of undesirable to me...
DenimCat: bonesdenimcat on July 11th, 2011 02:38 am (UTC)
I think the only issue would be if a cup covered the OPENING of the cervix, and if that were the case a cup wouldn't do any good anyway.
melissa569melissa569 on July 11th, 2011 08:26 pm (UTC)
I personally don't think its much of an issue. I'm not just saying that because I'm a big cup supporter... I have to think about my health too, because I personally use a cup, so I've gone over all this in my head many times, considering all angles. I just came to the conclusion that it can't be all that bad, considering what our cervixes put up with during the following activities:

--Toys, fingers, or the penis hitting it during sexual activity.

--Dry, scratchy tampons being worn up against it, brushing over it during insertion and removal, especially if your cervix is low.

--The "scraping" they do during PAP tests.

--Stretching and sometimes ripping during childbirth.

--Diaphragms being worn over the cervix.

--Things like IUD's and sometimes tiny cameras being shoves through the cervix and into the uterus.

--Nuvarings being worn up near the cervix.

And you just know when the doctor puts that speculum up inside us during a pelvic exam, especially in the case of low-cervix people, that tool will be brushing and scraping against the cervix as it opens and closes...

That's not to say we should just be totally brutal with our cervix all we want, lol. Lord no! We have to try and be nice to our insides. But a cup is fairly smooth, and really just sort of "holds everything open". I think its relatively kind to our cervixes, compared to some of the other things that happen to it.

Someone once told me "Yeah but during penetrative sex, that doesn't last as long as wearing a cup, all those insertions and removals...."

And I thought... Erm... Count how many times something goes in or out during sex, and the fact that it does so more roughly than than cup insertion, and I would say sex wins in the "inner wear and tear" department, lol.
Dina Clarelintilla on July 12th, 2011 12:13 pm (UTC)
>>--Things like IUD's and sometimes tiny cameras being shoves through the cervix and into the uterus.>>

Additional to that, tubes for intrauterine insemination, sometimes.