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02 April 2011 @ 12:33 pm
First off let me tell you how much I love my fleurcup! I am on day three of my cycle. I've had these 'weird' problems.
My second day [usually my heaviest] I felt the cup in my rectum(was it too low, or was it my cervix that i felt the weirdness pain?). I am not sure if it was an user error or what...or how low my cervix was positioned yesterday.
Today, I've had no problems whatsoever except the 'popping' open part and getting a good suction.
I went to pick up my son and I had a "Queef" per se. I don't know if it broke the suction or popped open officially. I also experienced light leaking when this occurred or right before it did. I use the c-fold..
I've tried the cold water but then the cup isn't pliable to opening up at all and I cannot fold it!
Also, how far is too far? How do you KNOW when you're cupping your cervix? It's a weird question but I cannot find it 'myself' I've tried and I just cannot get it but when I am on my period and I used to use tampons i'd jab it and wince. With my cup...I really cannot figure out how deep it should be.
How do I judge this?

Omg..I feel like a preteen figure out her body. This is such a new and wonderful experience!
hazelwhohazelwho on April 2nd, 2011 07:15 pm (UTC)
I have a Fleur too, and I've noticed that I can sometimes feel rectal pressure if I'm in need of a BM. If you have that feeling again, try going to the bathroom.

In my experience, the cold water thing doesn't work on the Fleur because it's so stiff already. When I have trouble getting it to pop, I try different folds (C-fold and 7-fold work best for me) and I try keggeling the thing up and down.

Finding your cervix - some of us have high cervixes (cervices?) and it takes a little work to find it. Most days, I can only just touch mine with my longest finger while I'm bearing down. When I put my cup in, I just make sure it's fully opened by running a finger around the edge. Even if I can't feel my cervix in the cup, I know I've got a solid seal with the vaginal wall. On my high cervix days, I will find my cup has migrated up all by itself during the day, but I've never had any leaks after my learning curve cycle.
Lyndsayeco_period on April 3rd, 2011 04:53 am (UTC)
the thing is i never thought i had a high cervix but tonight when I inserted the cup [about an hour ago] I tried to run my finger ontop of the rim to see what was going on I jerked back and was like "woah...that is high". I never experienced it. I guess in my own view I do have a high cervix.

hopefully next cycle will be just as rewarding as this one!
hazelwhohazelwho on April 3rd, 2011 05:05 am (UTC)
I didn't think I had a high cervix either, until I started reading posts here about people who found theirs an inch or less in. And then I realized I was using a large Diva and a large Fluer and could barely reach the fully intact stems some days. So mine is high compared to the norm around here. But cervix position depends on so many things - hormones, arousal, muscle movements, etc and there is a HUGE range of normal. It doesn't really matter though. The important thing about cup fit is that is "should" be is wherever is comfortable for you and keeps you leak-free. Good luck!
luckycharm318luckycharm318 on April 2nd, 2011 08:30 pm (UTC)
I use the punch down fold with my Meluna and sometimes when it doesn't open up, I pinch the bottom of the cup to try to get the folded down part to come out of the cup. I'm not sure if it would work for you, but it's worth a try. :)
1111bm on April 2nd, 2011 09:22 pm (UTC)
I think you should stop worrying about how deep your cup "should" sit.
Just insert it and let it settle in the right spot by itself. My cup just slides into place on its own and I've never put much thought into it.
My cup will sit low on those particular days when my cervix is low too and keeps my cup from going any higher, and my cup travels up higher when my cervix moves up higher too.
So there's really no "right" height for your cup. I've always assumed cups simply "choose" a spot where there's the least resistance and pressure from the surrounding vaginal walls.

If you're unsure whether you "caught" your cervix with your cup, you can run one finger around the outside of the cup (provided that you can reach that high with the cup inside) and check if you can feel the cervix sitting next to your cup or its rim (and if you feel that it does, push it inside the cup).
If you can't feel your cervix, chances are the cup is placed correctly and your cervix is inside the cup, or your cervix is so high that it doesn't sit in the cup at all, but rather above it, which should work too because the cup forms a seal with the vaginal walls.

But really, as long as you don't experience leaks, I wouldn't worry about my cervix' position, because it's obviously in the right spot if the cup is catching all of the blood.

As for experiencing "queefs", that's normal, I get those often with my cups, but they never compromise my seal or anything.
The leakage you've experienced could have just been the dreaded "residual slobber" (menstrual blood flowing down your vaginal walls while you change your cup, ending up in the part of the vagina below the cup so that it can't get caught inside of it and ends up leaking out into our underwear) especially since you described it as "light" leaking. But of course I can't tell for sure if it was a real leak or not, that's for you to decide.

I don't really have problems to get my cups to pop open, if my cup happens to be particularly stubborn, I just "manhandle" it until it pops open, or I reinsert if my attempts prove to be fruitless.
For me it works best and fastest if I insert my cup really deep before I let it pop open, so that it's past the narrow and tight vaginal entrance, so that there's enough space for it to inflate. But other users have to do it the other way round, and let their cups open up as low as possible.

As for rectal pain or other discomfort, is this your first cycle with a cup? A lot of people find that they experience some sort of discomfort when they first try out a cup, and it can take several cycles until your body gets used to the cup.
If the pain persists for more than three cycles, I'd assume that your particular cup is probably too stiff and rigid and that maybe switching to a softer and more pliable cup could help with that
Lyndsayeco_period on April 2nd, 2011 10:42 pm (UTC)
Yes this is my first full cycle with the cup. Well, it's not always pain - today at this very moment I feel no pain absolutely whatsoever.
I do insert it as far as I can and I sometimes even get my fingers along [pointer and middle] and I really can't tell. It's an odd sensation.
It's a very good point to try to rule out any discomfort from the cup until after the third cycle and about the "slobber" makes sense.
Dina Clarelintilla on April 2nd, 2011 10:47 pm (UTC)
I've had a bit of bubbling followed by a small leak before due to a large blood clot displacing too much blood in my cup. Do you pass big clots? 'Cause that could be it.
Lyndsayeco_period on April 2nd, 2011 10:51 pm (UTC)
Never, especially since I started with my cup. I used to have them when I used disposable pads and tampons.
Dina Clarelintilla on April 2nd, 2011 10:52 pm (UTC)
Never, or you used to have them? ;)

I'll go many periods without any clots, followed by one with huge clots. XD I don't know if that could be the case with you, too. Either way, I hope you figure it out!
Lyndsayeco_period on April 2nd, 2011 10:53 pm (UTC)
Well, used to have them!
I love my cup because I find it less gross?
merrrra on April 4th, 2011 11:32 pm (UTC)
The clots are the layer of the uterus that is expelled during menstration. So pretty much sometimes you may have a thicker layer than other times. When I was growing up it was explained as "needing to change the sheets even though the guest(potential implantation) didn't spend the night. Sometimes you use thick sheets, sometimes thin sheets.

Lyndsayeco_period on April 5th, 2011 03:20 am (UTC)
that's a really good way to put it
when I am on hormonal birth control it seems to be thicker.