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Shady Raine Hazelgrove
13 January 2011 @ 01:20 am
First time poster, but long time lurker here! =)

I didn't do a lot of research when I first bought my menstrual cup (around August 2010). I was under the impression that the only one that could be bought in the states was the Diva, so that's what I got. I'm kind of nitpick-y with it, but that's only after having got past the learning curve, and I will NEVER go back to disposables (pads OR tampons) again!

First off, it's too long for me. Turning it inside out helped, but it's flat on the bottom now, which makes getting it out a pain, plus it makes it slightly uncomfortable (I'm a bit on the short side, so it hangs pretty low for me). Also, it doesn't normally feel like it's going to fall out, but when I'm using the restroom, it REALLY does. In fact, I have to take it out if I'm ah... taking a dump (for lack of a better way to put it), and this gets to be a problem as my period typically brings with it diarrhea.

For these reason, I'm thinking about another cup. I've narrowed it down to the Lunette or the Fleurcup, for size and capacity reasons. Here is where I get stuck: they're both so similar! Which one is right for me? I know that's a personal decision, but as I'm still decently new to the scene, I thought I'd ask for help.

I've heard the Fleurcup is stiffer than the Lunette, which in turn is stiffer than the Diva. I like the squishiness of the Diva, but I've also had some leaks with the Diva (which I've heard a stiffer cup helps with). None have been in the past two or so months, though, so I'm thinking that was just learning curve leakage.

Also, the Fleurcup is cheaper than the Lunette (though I found it on sale at a particular store right now, I'm hoping that will last a couple days...), and since I'm a poor college student, that's a big deal.

In all the comparisons of the two I've found, people seem to prefer the Fleurcup, but the width at the top of the Lunette (and the slightly more pointed bottom) seems more comfortable to me.

One last question: size. No matter which I pick (since they're the same size and all), do you think the large would be too big for me? I like the larger capacity (I have a pretty decent flow. Though it's been better controlled since I started BC, I used to go through a super tampon in an hour of PE in high school), and I really don't want anything smaller around than the Diva, but I'm not sure if it would be too long. Does 5mm make enough of a difference, or would I be safer just sticking with the small, d'you think?

No matter what, switching to the cup was the best thing I ever did, and I'd stick with my few complaints about the Diva than go back to tampons. Even my boyfriend has commented about how much easier I am to be around on my period. During New Year's, we were on vacation, and surprise surprise, I was on my period. However, I felt comfortable enough, for the first time in nearly 10 years of bleeding monthly, to go swimming and hang out in the hot tub right smack in the middle of my flow.

Anyway, thanks for all the help!
 
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 13th, 2011 07:23 am (UTC)
Also, just for any other newcomers that read this, I found that working through the learning curve in the shower made things about 150% easier. I wasn't scared of dropping it or dripping or getting my fingers bloody without being able to rinse them right away (I'm past that now).

Just some friendly advice! =)
rypoff22 on January 13th, 2011 07:31 am (UTC)
Do you have the large or small Diva?
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 13th, 2011 07:36 am (UTC)
Sorry, should have mentioned that. I have the small Diva.
rypoff22 on January 13th, 2011 07:46 am (UTC)
I thought you had the small, but I thought I'd just go ahead and ask. Anyway, the large of either cup would probably be fine, but you could track your cervix height for a cycle to really be sure. As to helping you choose between the cups, I can't really help. (Except to say I have a large Lunette and I love it...)
m03m on January 13th, 2011 07:44 am (UTC)
I don't think it's correct that the Fleurcup is stiffer than the Lunette. At least, not if you compare the large of both sides... and I see no reason for you to stick to the small cups.

Five mm shorter is a lot. It makes lots of difference.

I have a cervix that's low enough for the (filed smooth) pointy base of my Ladycup to bother me, and the round-based Fleurcup is the perfect cup for me. I filed the grip rings off almost completely, but you can reach much the same effect by flipping it inside out.
Because of the shape, the Fleurcup doesn't get shorter when you flip it inside out; in fact it stays the exact same shape. It's frosted both inside and out, so it doesn't get slippery either.

I've never tried a Lunette so I can't compare, but I <3 my Fleurcup. And the uncoloured Fleurs are 3 euros off right now.
Erinclxtgirl on January 13th, 2011 01:43 pm (UTC)
I should have read closer! I just posted a link to your filing post below. I have to say a big THANK YOU for the inspiration about filing my Fleur. I didn't completely take off the ridges, but I made them a lot more subtle. This made the difference between a good cup and my perfect cup. Flipping just isn't the same as having my (now) low profile ridges.
m03m on January 13th, 2011 05:39 pm (UTC)
I'm totally chuffed that someone found my idea useful :-)
Griffin Rosegriffinrose on January 13th, 2011 07:58 am (UTC)
I have to say I love my Lunette Selene. The Deva would have been too long for me and the Lunette is shorter but still has capacity.

Like M03M, who has not tried a Lunette, I have not tried a Fleurcup. I like the stiffness of the Lunette and was under the impression the Fleurcup was softer. I knew it wouldn't work for me. The Lunette pops open easily and I never have problems with it sticking out. Hope this helps!!
Griffin Rosegriffinrose on January 13th, 2011 07:58 am (UTC)
Whoops...slip of the fingers. "Diva"
saraf3msaraf3m on January 13th, 2011 10:14 am (UTC)
I think you'll find a lot of lovers of one or the other camp on this one :) It will depend on your preference of shape, color, company. price, shipping... a lot of the small insignificant details as I feel these are so similar in texture and popularity

I chose Fleur because I was just more "attracted" to the cup
This gut decision was right for me and I love the fuller bottom and overall shape plus the cosmetic color was a seal on the deal
Both Divas, Large MeLuna and Large Yukki are similar in shape to Lunette and though I do not have Lunette I feel that I have a fair basis for comparison on my decision and hopefully able to give insight for yours

So... summary is of you like the shape of the Diva Lunette is a closer match and shorter but it is slightly thinner of I read the charts right. If you want a rounder bottom or more pronounced grip Fleur may be better and much shorter but a little wider

Large of either will probably work for you comfortably gives your current cup and experiences

http://menstrualcupinfo.wordpress.com/cup-stiffness-comparison-chart/#comment-1663
Kai: pic#74324509kuradi8 on January 13th, 2011 01:34 pm (UTC)
Would the large be too big for you? Probably not. The couple of mm wider doesn't make that much difference -- but the difference in length from the Diva to the small of either the Lunette or Fleurcup could be substantial. My icon shows the length difference. Use the size charts to compare the numbers http://community.livejournal.com/menstrual_cups/1285963.html and follow the link to Melissa's photos to see the differences in better photos.
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 13th, 2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
THAT is the picture site I've been looking for! I came across it once but I couldn't remember where I'd found it, and I've been looking for it ever since I decided to try a new cup. Thank you!!!
Erinclxtgirl on January 13th, 2011 01:38 pm (UTC)
If you are a stem trimmer you might want to check out the post about sanding down the Fleur bottom. I had to do this since I'm also short down there. I had the same problems with my Diva almost sticking out. I like the gentle rounded base of my modified Fleur. Now there isn't a pointy bit poking at me because of the rounder bottom. Just something else to think about.

http://community.livejournal.com/menstrual_cups/2387402.html#cutid1
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 13th, 2011 02:52 pm (UTC)
This definitely looks like something I'll have to do, and if you hadn't pointed me to the thread I probably never would have thought of it. Thanks!
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 13th, 2011 02:59 pm (UTC)
Thank you guys so much! I was under the impression that the Lunette was a little wider at the top, but now, looking at Melissa's photos, they look about the same.

Rereading my post (and flinching at some of my 1am grammar), I think I confused myself. I mentioned that the pointier end of the Lunette seemed more comfortable, but in retrospect I really don't think so, ESPECIALLY now that I've seen those pictures of a filed down Fleurcup. I think I was thinking it would make it easier to get out, but I'm willing to sacrifice that for more comfort.

Also, it's cheaper, also, I love purple, so I think that I'm gonna go with the Fleurcup.

Also, on the size issue: I'm gonna go through one more cycle with my Diva to make sure of the comfort of the diameter, but I do think I'm gonna go with the large. Me being from the states, it's hard for me to think about how much difference 5mm can make, and I was measuring my Diva inside out to see what that comfort level was for me, but I also wasn't thinking about if the base were rounded instead of straight up flat, so I don't think the large is gonna be a big deal. Again, I'm gonna pay super close attention this next cycle just to be sure.

Again, guys, thanks for your advice! =)
Serpentserpent_849 on January 14th, 2011 12:43 am (UTC)
unless it feels like you're narrow down there, if you're sexually active the width should be fine. i'm a virgin and with my low cervix i need width, large ladycup hasn't been a problem in this regard and i'm fairly sure medium meluna will be even better with its different shape...
so yeah fleurcup might feel larger due to its shape (and it IS physically larger :D), but if you think it'll fit you go for it:)
i don't understand what you mean by making sure of the comfort of the diameter btw.
oh and i've heard the large diva inside out has exactly the same dimensions as a large lunette and fleurcup, 46x52. since the small is the same length, it should also be the same length as these two inside out?
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 14th, 2011 01:12 am (UTC)
The Divas are 57mm long.

As for comfort diameter-wise, I was talking about how the Fleurcup will be a little wider than my Diva (seeing as I have the small), but not by much. Pretty much everything everybody has said leads me to think it's not gonna make a difference, and I AM sexually active, but I just want to make sure before I spend the money. I'm actually a little more worried that it will still be too long, since when I measured my Diva inside it was 49mm. I think the rounded bottom of the Fleurcup will take care of that, but again, I just want to check one last time before I spend what little money I have. =)
Serpentserpent_849 on January 14th, 2011 01:29 am (UTC)
yes i know, and since they both have the same length, i assume the small one is also 52 mm long inside out. 49 sounds impossible, my large ladycup is 53 mm and 49-50 inside out (and it hurts right side out). it's even weird to me that the diva is whole 5 mm shorter inside out.
and how are you going to make sure the tiny bit of extra width will be ok?
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 14th, 2011 02:51 am (UTC)
It may be longer, I was using a computer ruler to measure it because I couldn't find an in-person one, so it's very possible that the computer one was a little off.

And as to how to check? I have no idea! xD I think I'm just gonna consciously pay more attention to exactly how it fits. I doubt if I'm really gonna be able to tell, but like I said, it's less the width and more the length I'm worried about. Even that, though, I'm getting less and less worried about.
Serpent: suomiserpent_849 on January 14th, 2011 02:57 am (UTC)
well if the inside-out length is fine for you it should fit:) if you think you might need a slightly shorter cup, maybe the lunette is the better choice as fleurcup seems to be the only one that due to its shape doesn't get shorter inside out.
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 14th, 2011 03:23 am (UTC)
Ah, what the hey. To be honest, I'm too impatient and excited to try a new one to wait through another cycle, especially when I'm not due for another two weeks. I think I'm just gonna bite the bullet and order it. After all, it's $31 total after exchange rate for me, and I work as a computer lab assistant and will make it back in all of a week.

Again, thanks for all the help!
Serpentserpent_849 on January 14th, 2011 03:28 am (UTC)
good luck!
justice_02justice_02 on January 13th, 2011 08:48 pm (UTC)
Have tried both the Lunette size 2 and the Fleurcup size 2. I prefer the Fleurcup. I have a Lunette size 1, which is a softer silicone than the Lunette size 2. The size 1 has only been used on a dry run. Will see how it goes during actual period use. The Fleurcup is, in my opinion, not as stiff as the Lunette size 2. I have no problem with it popping open everytime and have had no leaks. It is a fantastic cup and their color choices are gorgeous. I don't think you could go wrong by choosing this cup.
happytree923 on January 14th, 2011 12:06 am (UTC)
I have used a large Lunette and a large Fleur. I like the Fleur better because of it's shape. It bells out more, so more of the capacity is towards the bottom. That's important for me because my cervix likes to sit in my cup. Shape is the only really major difference between them. I don't think the Fleurcup is stiffer than the Lunette, I personally found my Fleur is much easier to fold/handle than the Lunette.
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 14th, 2011 01:12 am (UTC)
I'm with you on that one, I've noticed that I can't get a good seal unless my cervix is hanging in the cup, so having more of the capacity toward the bottom will definitely be a plus, I think.
Serpentserpent_849 on January 14th, 2011 03:51 am (UTC)
if it's high enough that you have a choice whether to let it sit inside your cup or no, i'd say this length is definitely fine:) i wouldn't be able to decide even with a small meluna lol.
Shady Raine Hazelgroveshadykit on January 14th, 2011 04:14 am (UTC)
Haha, I say I can't get a good seal unless, but that was more meant to come out that I really don't have a choice. At first, I was having trouble finding my cervix and it kept leaking (I wasn't really very familiar with myself). Once I finally found it on my second cycle with my cup, I realized that I wasn't getting my cup around my cervix and that's why I was leaking so bad. When it's in right, my cervix hangs into it, no choice about it! =)

Either way, though, it's ordered now. No turning back! I really don't think I'll want to, anyway.
m03m on January 14th, 2011 11:09 am (UTC)
If it works for you as well as it does for me, you'll love it. Here's wishing it does!