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30 June 2009 @ 03:43 pm
Hello Ladies.

I'm fourteen, five foot one, 110 pounds, tiny framed, and can't put in a tampon.
However, the cotton-y feel does bother me with those, so maybe, just maybe this will be better.

I've been reading posts on this site for about six months,
but have yet to purchase a menstrual cup.
They seem great, but I have had doubts with my ability to put them in, etc.

However, now i'm willing to take the needed time and focus on insertion.
I'm in an intensive cheer camp right now, and periods and cheer is bad enough,
without going through pads and cheer.
So, i'm going to order one, hopefully today.

I decided on the Lady Cup (in Lilac) because it's the smallest.
However, the website and ordering is hugely confusing.
And I have a few general questions.

First off: getting one:

Do the colors make a difference?
Is their website the only place that sells them?
How long does it take to ship (i'd really really really like to have it within a week)?
Are there any US stores that carry them instock? Can you give me some examples?
And if there isn't another option explain how to order off their website, please!
+What should I order? Cleaning gel? 

Second off: getting it in & out.
What are good folds to use?
Good positions? 
Can I try putting it in when i'm not in my cycle?

How do I attempt to get it out?
Cleaning it?

General comments?

Thank you all so much in advance.
Love, Luckyy23.
Current Location: NY, US
Current Mood: anxiousanxious
iudmamaiudmama on June 30th, 2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
If you haven't already, read The Virgin's Guide to Cups. It's an excellent guide for insertion and removal, etc.

Read the FAQs and posts on cleaning and folding. There's a ton of information here. Take your time and get familiar with your body before you just try sticking it in.
Relax and be patient with yourself. It can take a few cycles to figure it out, but it's so worth it.

You can bid on a LadyCup on ebay, usually cheaper than going through the LadyCup website.

Lucky you for finding cups so young!
surethingbuddysurethingbuddy on June 30th, 2009 08:09 pm (UTC)
"What are good folds to use?
Good positions?
Can I try putting it in when i'm not in my cycle?

How do I attempt to get it out?
Cleaning it?"

These questions can all be answered by searching through the tags on the right.
cory77 on June 30th, 2009 08:11 pm (UTC)
Hi! I'm new to cups myself... but lurking has helped out a lot, so I think I can answer a few of your questions.

I have a both a small and a large LilacCup. One color isn't any different/better than any other... they are all made the same, so you can pick whatever color you want. The lilac is a very pretty color!

In the US you can't buy ladycups in store. Your options are to buy from their website, buy from feminine wear (in the UK) or to buy from ebay (which is actually sold by the ladycup manufactures... you can get some good deals, but you have to be patient). I bought from ebay, and shipping took about 2 weeks.

Oh, and your size doesn't really have much to do with your weight, frame, or height... its more about the length to your cervix. Some people have a very low cervix, some really high, and some in the middle. I think I fall in about middle length and I can use the small or the large ladycup. I tend to find that the small fits me better, but the large has a higher capacity... which is nice for being able to wear it longer.

Hope this helps! Good luck!
Meganarwen_17 on June 30th, 2009 08:20 pm (UTC)
Do the colors make a difference?- no, just your preference. same size, same everything, except color.

Is their website the only place that sells them?- no, she sells them on ebay too; they actually often go cheaper on ebay. if you (or your parents) can set up an account and can pay using paypal, there would be no problem.

How long does it take to ship (i'd really really really like to have it within a week)?- since it comes from overseas, it takes longer than a week- actually closer to a month.

Are there any US stores that carry them instock? Can you give me some examples?- no, they are not an FDA approved brand of menstrual cup, due to the fact that they're colored, and they haven't gone through the process to become FDA approved. they are still wonderful cups, still medical grade silicone; i have a large and love it.

And if there isn't another option explain how to order off their website, please!- on the side bar, click on "order online". i would only order the ladycup itself; click on "ladycup economic pack". click your size, and then click the color you want. click on "add to cart", or change the quantity if you want more than one. it will take you to view your cart, and will be a place to enter a coupon code- there are ladies here, i'm sure, that have codes which you could enter on the "coupon code" section. after you have either done that or not, click "final checkout." enter your information, then continue on to the next screen.

+What should I order? Cleaning gel? i would just order the cup itself; it comes with a storage pouch.

Second off: getting it in & out.
What are good folds to use?- every woman is different; i have used the C-fold and punch down fold; it depends on which month it is which fold works best.

Good positions? i would say sitting on the toilet (after you've figured it out) or squatting or laying in the bathtub or laying on your bed.

Can I try putting it in when i'm not in my cycle?- yes, but i would use some sort of lubricant, unless you masturbate and can get yourself lubricated on your own.

How do I attempt to get it out?- with mine, i have to grab the stem, yank it, and stick a finger up there to break the seal. it depends on if yours sits low, or if it sits high around your cervix on how it will be to get out.

Cleaning it?- i wash mine out with standard antibacterial soap- dial, softsoap, whatever- it's cheap and effective. just make sure you rinse it well so as to not kill the bacteria in your vagina (don't let this deter you; it's easy to rinse it off well).

General comments?- good luck! there is often a learning curve, and sometimes while getting the hang of it it may leak, so it would be my recommendation to wear a pantyliner until you know it won't leak.
Jessicaamethystrse on June 30th, 2009 08:46 pm (UTC)
Is their website the only place that sells them?
There are other places that sell menstrual cups but I don't know much about them, hopefully someone else can point you in the right direction there.

How long does it take to ship (i'd really really really like to have it within a week)?
I have a mooncup (UK) and I live in NY. Mine came in 2 weeks and that was from overseas. Since I haven't had a lady cup I don't know about them, but I would think 2 weeks would be the average.

Are there any US stores that carry them instock? Can you give me some examples?
I don't know of any. I don't think there are. They're not common enough I guess.

+What should I order? Cleaning gel?
I don't use any special cleansers for mine. Some people do but I don't see the need.

Second off: getting it in & out.
What are good folds to use?
I like the C-fold. It's the one that most cups recommend. It works fine for me but I hear that people with petite bodies sometimes need to do the 7 fold or oragami fold. There is a post somewhere about the different folds. My suggestion is to try them and see which one works for you. Everyone's different and what works for one might not work for another.

Good positions?
I do mine while on the toilet. I just open my legs and insert it the same way I would a tampon. Some people need to stand with one leg up (I do that in the shower) but that can get messy.

Can I try putting it in when i'm not in my cycle?
I usually put mine in a few days before I get my period. It's easier to get in and out when you're menstruating though. Just make sure you don't leave it in for more than 8 hours without taking it out and cleaning it. Otherwise it'll smell REALLY BAD. If you do wind up leaving it in too long there are ways to clean it. There should be a tag on that.

How do I attempt to get it out?
Usually I stick 2 fingers up ther (forefinger and thumb) and squeeze it a bit to break suction. If it's too high up (which does happen) then I bare down (like you're going poo) and pull on the stem a bit. Then when it's where I can reach it I pull it out like normal.

Cleaning it?
While I'm on my cycle I just rinse it off whenever I take it out. After my cycle is over I soak it in a mixture of hydrogen peroxide and water. (That also helps get any smell out)

General comments?
It can take a while for some people to get used to. Some have no problem too. I suggest trying to use it before your period starts to find which fold you're most comfortable with. Don't get discouraged if it doesn't work perfectly at first. It can take a few cycles before you get really used to it.
omg ririteh_riaz on June 30th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)
actually, I'm in central CT and I ordered a ladycup off ebay, and it only took a week or so for it to get from the czech republic to me. I was astonished :P
noptimum on July 1st, 2009 04:04 am (UTC)
I live in Canada and I ordered mine off of ebay on Saturday, and it arrived on Friday from Czech so I was just as astonished! You might have to be willing to pay a little more if you don't want to wait for the bidding to end though.
crochetaduckcrochetaduck on June 30th, 2009 11:32 pm (UTC)
Everyone else has given you good advice; I just have a couple things to add:

Insertion--try different folds. I've had the most success with the triangle fold (extreme 7-fold) and the punch down fold. I highly recommend this series of youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPBZz3uJEg&feature=related

Cleaning--you can find lots of info on cleaning on the tags. I mostly just use water to rinse it off, and once a day or so I use the DivaWash. I try to remember to boil it at the end and the beginning of my cycle, but usually I just do it at the beginning. Some people recommend avoiding antibacterial soap because it can kill the good bacteria in your vagina and cause a yeast infection (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and also avoiding glycerine soap because glycerine feeds yeast infections. The DivaWash has glycerine, and I've never had a problem with it; I just make sure to rinse it off completely.
luckyy23 on July 1st, 2009 12:06 am (UTC)
Re: The Lilac Cup
Hey Girlies,
I just wanted to let everyone know I am reading and appreciating their advice.
I just purchased the transparent lady cup (small) off of ebay, and hopefully will have it soon.
So no worries about the buying part,
but I am worried about insertion... so any suggestions like diagrams, videos, etc. I would greatly appreciate.
Thank you m'dears!
lost in chaos: i cannot believe my eyesaacdeln on July 1st, 2009 01:20 am (UTC)

One of the members here created quite a few informative videos. For your concerns, watch the cervix position, insertion, folding, and removal videos (in that order).

But I think the most important thing is to relax and if you get frustrating during insertion/removal and just try again later. When I first tried insertion, I spent 10 minutes and got worked up. I stopped and decided to try the next day and success! Removal was also tricky but that removal video was helpful.

Good luck!
zandperl: Daisyzandperl on July 1st, 2009 01:40 am (UTC)
My experiences on a few of your questions. I've only been using a cup since January. I got the hang of it after around 3 cycles.

Good positions?

When I first started, I would take both my pants and panties all the way off (or else around one ankle only), face the toilet, put my left foot on the toilet seat, and my right on the floor, squat, hold apart my outer labia with my left hand, and do the insertion/removal with my right. With more practice now, I can pretty much just plie (like the dance position) and use one hand only for insertion/removal, but if the cup's really full I try to do this facing and over the toilet so it spills right in.

Can I try putting it in when i'm not in my cycle?

Yep, it's called a dry run - see the tag on the right. Some women even use it every day of the month. I sometimes use it on days I'm a bit "jucier" and would otherwise use a pantiliner.

How do I attempt to get it out?

Stand the same way as you do when inserting it, hold apart your labia with one hand, and reach inside with your pointer finger and thumb (or pointer and middle), grab the stem or base, and pull. Some cups have a lot of suction and with them it helps to first use your pointer to push the side so that the rim indents a bit and lets in or out a little blip or fart of air.

You'll often also see recommendations to "do Kegels" and might be confused about this. There are separate muscles that control urination, bowl movements, and the vaginal muscles. It takes practice to learn to distinguish between the three and be able to control one set of muscles without clenching or loosening the other two sets. When you clench the vaginal muscles that's what we mean when we say "do Kegels". Doing Kegels squeezes on anything inside your vagina and pushes it out and down, so this helps to push the cup out and down and make it easier to reach and remove.

Cleaning it?

I recommend against anti-bacterial soap, as that can trigger yeast infections in some women. If I'm out of the house then when I empty the cup I find a one-seater bathroom, wash my hands, dump the cup in the toilet, rinse thoroughly with warm water, and reinsert it. I don't use soap b/c I don't want to insert any residue from a scented soap into my vagina and risk an allergic reaction (I'm sometimes allergic to scented soaps). When I'm home I wash the cup with plain normal Ivory or Dove unscented soap before reinserting. Every couple months I put the cup in a pot of boiling water for around 5-10 minutes (make sure the water doesn't boil off!) to sterilize it.

I hope this helps!
noptimum on July 1st, 2009 04:23 am (UTC)
The BEST fold that I have found for the ladycup is the punchdown with the fold facing DOWN. It goes in sooo easily and pretty much pulls itself in when it automatically pops open every time! :)
Dina Clare: dreamlintilla on July 1st, 2009 07:46 am (UTC)
Have a look at my post about the myths propagated by cup companies - it explains my opinion on the cleaning gels/washes/etc. Might answer a few other questions you didn't know you had, too. :)

My girlfriend's LadyCup arrived in two weeks, and we live in Australia. I'd think it would be quicker to the States, but who knows?
lutyalapolutyalapo on July 1st, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
I just wanted to actually post the link to the ebay store:

The only current small LilacCup auction is the luxury package for $39.99 Buy It Now:

I have bought from the Ladycup ebay store twice and shipping took one week both times to NY state from the Czech Republic.
Kai: pic#84732488kuradi8 on July 3rd, 2009 12:07 pm (UTC)
When you get the cup, ignore the instructions that come with it. The instructions for ALL of the cups (online too) make it seem as if the cup is as big as a thimble, it sits at the opening of your vagina and that there is a cup-length or more (sometimes several) between the opening of the cup and the cervix. That's just plain wrong. For most of us, it sits (O) around the cervix, more or less fills the vagina and kinda-sorta rests against the pubic bone (which seems far away in the pictures.)

The key to both opening and removal is to get air into the cup. Stay relaxed, don't clench your PC muscles, breathe normally, keep your jaw slack.

Want to try my insertion method?

Sitting on the toilet, I use the punch-down fold with the punched part facing down. (Facing down, it makes a difference.) I hold it with my thumb and middle finger and insert it so the rim is just beyond my pubic bone. Then I insert my index finger to create an air channel and allow the cup to open fully there. (It draws in a little as it opens.) I nudge the stem rearward to face the opening of the cup toward my cervix and then give the cup a boost as I Kegel it up and into place.

Read the Removal tags for some great advice and various removal methods. I think everyone does it a little differently. Don't JUST YANK it out. Ouch.

As for cleaning, some gals are fanatic about boiling and "sterilizing" (it's really only sanitizing) their cups. I'm not. I wash it and (more importantly) RINSE it well before and after each cycle. The key is not to leave any soap residue behind. "As clean as cutlery" is good enough. Mid-cycle, I'll give it a rinse before reinserting if I'm at home but if I'm out, I just dump it out and reinsert it without even wiping it down. Those few drops won't make any difference and my theory is that the less I handle it, the fewer "hand germs" I'll get onto it. And the less likely that I'll fumble and drop it. =8oO

I wish I had discovered cups when I was your age.